Stewart is a liability

[megadeth078]

Obviously we run the ball more. Obviously we take attempts away from Delhomme. This thread isn't about Delhomme. This thread is about how Stewart takes too many carries from Williams. Thank you for successfully missing the point four consecutive times.

The pass attempts you hypothetically took away from Delhomme can mean more carries for Deangelo. Is this really not making sense to you?

[Lt Pinkerton]

The pass attempts you hypothetically took away from Delhomme can mean more carries for Deangelo. Is this really not making sense to you?

It makes perfect sense. I'm saying do that, and give Deangelo more carries over Stewart.

[carolinanimal]

only problem with this is that you spent on 1st round pick on a guy that is only a goal line back. that would be absurd. and some times dwill calls to the sideline for stew. doing that you run the risk of running him into the ground. these guys are 2 different types of runners. dwill has more wiggle and cut back ability, jstew breaks more tackles at the point of attack and is hard to take down.

[Lt Pinkerton]

Williams is our best player. And the reason he is able to do so well is that we rotate him and keep him fresh. Increase the carries he gets, and his effectiveness will lessen. He should get about 18-25 carries a game, Stewart should get 15-20 a game, and Delhomme should throw a lot less.

And I agree that we should rotate him, just not nearly as much as we do. I again use Chris Johnson and Lendale White as good indicator of how many carries each should get.

it's funny how stewart, who has had the better overall ypc of the two backs all season long up until thursday, is now a liability.

this thread is stupid.

This would be a good point, except it isn't true.

Also, the backup truly should have the better YPC. He comes in after the defense is soft and doesn't have to run the first few run plays of a game that usually never work as well as they do in the later parts.

[Lt Pinkerton]

only problem with this is that you spent on 1st round pick on a guy that is only a goal line back. that would be absurd. and some times dwill calls to the sideline for stew. doing that you run the risk of running him into the ground. these guys are 2 different types of runners. dwill has more wiggle and cut back ability, jstew breaks more tackles at the point of attack and is hard to take down.

It doesn't matter how different they are (they're not) or what round we picked Stewart in, I still disagree with that first round pick. Joe Flacco would have been a good selection, right? Deangelo is playing better, and he shouldn't have his rhythm interrupted by someone who is not playing as well. He should still check himself out when he needs a break, but they shouldn't be getting the same amount of carries.

[megadeth078]

It makes perfect sense. I'm saying do that, and give Deangelo more carries over Stewart.

No, I'm pretty sure I'm saying that.

The whole "Stewart is the reason we lost", that's all you....

[Lt Pinkerton]

No, I'm pretty sure I'm saying that.

Obviously we run the ball more. Obviously we take attempts away from Delhomme. This thread isn't about Delhomme. This thread is about how Stewart takes too many carries from Williams. Thank you for successfully missing the point four consecutive times.

The whole "Stewart is the reason we lost", that's all you....

I never once said that. There were many reasons why we lost that game.

[Davidson Deac II]

I think our rotation is great right now. Our run game is working to perfection. My only complaint is that both Stewart and Williams should get more carries, and Delhomme should get zero throws.

[megadeth078]

No, I'm pretty sure I'm saying that.

The whole "Stewart is the reason we lost", that's all you....

Obviously we run the ball more. Obviously we take attempts away from Delhomme. This thread isn't about Delhomme. This thread is about how Stewart takes too many carries from Williams. Thank you for successfully missing the point four consecutive times.

Just look at the first reply. I gave you a less retarded solution to your problem than taking away carries from a solid contributor. Delhomme needs to have less passes so Deangelo can have more carries. I don't know what point you are trying to make. Something about all Stewart's fault or some poo...

You see, this is why people should respect /thread posts. Just look what happened here. Random shitfest just to get you to agree with my first reply.

[Sandy Claws]

You're missing the point.

We both agree that Jake is the problem, another problem is how the carries are divided. When your starting RB is on fire and playing lights out he should get more carries than the backup RB who is not playing nearly as well. In the Miami game Deangelo had 13 carries for 122 yards, while Stewart had 12 for 43. Give six of those carries to Deangelo and maybe we win that game.

Another chicken/egg arguement. Would Williams maintain that average with more carries or does he maintain that average because some of the wear and tear gets passed on to Stewart?

Williams averages 6.6 ypc in the 1st quarter but only 3.4 ypc in the 4th.

His average for his first 5 carries of the games is 6.8 ypc

for carries 16-20, his average drops to 3.2 ypc

His average does spike again on his first carries of the second half but overall, it looks like he starts to wear down a little. AND that's with the current sharing with Stewart.

[PanthersPhan18]

The pass attempts you hypothetically took away from Delhomme can mean more carries for Deangelo. Is this really not making sense to you?

You're missing the point megadeth. All his saying is Stewart shouldn't be splitting carries on an even 50-50 with Williams. What he's trying to say is Williams should get the carries about 65-70 percent of the time instead of an even 50-50 with Sterwart. Yeah he gets it, the less Delhomme passes, the more carries Williams gets, but he's saying Williams and Stewart shouldn't be splitting carries on an even 50-50....especially when Williams is having a great day.

[PanthersPhan18]

No, I'm pretty sure I'm saying that.

The whole "Stewart is the reason we lost", that's all you....

He never said Stewart was the reason we lost....you're either missing his point, or just trying to play dumb.

[MorgulKing]

Ugh...this thread reminds me of last year when fans were calling for Stewart to start and to bench Williams.

Either of our backs can break it lose on any given play. The fact that their running style is different is even more reason to keep switching them in and out so the defense can't adjust to them.

The only adjustments we need in the running game is to increase the carries of both backs.

[PanthersPhan18]

Another chicken/egg arguement. Would Williams maintain that average with more carries or does he maintain that average because some of the wear and tear gets passed on to Stewart?

Williams averages 6.6 ypc in the 1st quarter but only 3.4 ypc in the 4th.

His average for his first 5 carries of the games is 6.8 ypc

for carries 16-20, his average drops to 3.2 ypc

His average does spike again on his first carries of the second half but overall, it looks like he starts to wear down a little. AND that's with the current sharing with Stewart.

Now that's a fair argument. Would Williams be as effective with 25-30 carries a game instead of just the 15-20? Doubt it, but he still would have great success imo.