Reddick on leadership

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

We put Gilmore on Pitts.  We put Gilmore on AJ Green.  We have been putting Gilmore on the biggest threat of late situationally when it mattered.  Not Jackson.  Because again, Gilmore is hands down the best DB in Carolina. 

and Gilmore was on the field in the first half on the plays McLaurin hit the big plays.  It's why the snap count excuse Rhule threw out there was bogus.  And of course, they made the obivous correction in the 2nd half. 

You can go read threads on this forum before the Washington game...where it was talked about why this should be a win for us.  It specfically talked about us having Gilmore and the ability to neutralize McClaurin.  Which was the key to stopping Washington's O.   That's not hindsight.   Claiming it is hindsight is just breaking your back bending over to defend Matt Rhule and poor coaching/gameplan they came out with. 

They put him on Pitts on certain downs.. He didn't cover Pitts all game!!

You do know this right?? Snap counts don't match up...

Gilmore has been a part time player and only after Sunday's game did "He" say he is now ready for a full load...

You coming up with Madden strategy after the fact with adding any context....

[RJK]

Look Gilmore is amazing but he doesn’t have the speed to chase scary Terry all over the field. That’s why DJ was on him for better or worse 

[CRA]

13 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

They put him on Pitts on certain downs.. He didn't cover Pitts all game!!

You do know this right?? Snap counts don't match up...

Gilmore has been a part time player and only after Sunday's game did "He" say he is now ready for a full load...

You coming up with Madden strategy after the fact with adding any context....

you literally somehow ignored the part in the post where I said " We have been putting Gilmore on the biggest threat of late situationally when it mattered" .    That has been the case in every game of late, except the first half of the Washington game.    We did it with Pitts, we did it with AJ Green, and we did it in the second half with McLaurin. 

again, the snap count arguement is bunk.  Gilmore was on the field on all those big plays McLaurin hit.   Because those are the type downs we use him on.  And we went back to using Gilmore properly in the 2nd half.  Which is what we have been doing with Gilmore since he got back on the field. 

It was clearly a coaching decision to alter what was working and was obivous going in.  The staff opted to use Jackson in the first half on McLaurin over Gilmore in the situtions that called for Gilmore.   Gilmore was on the field.  The coaches mindbogginly thought Jackson was a better option because he is fast.   

And the second half, they admitted to their coaching mistake.   And went back to getting Gilmore to solve the biggest threats situationally. 

 

 

 

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, RJK said:

Look Gilmore is amazing but he doesn’t have the speed to chase scary Terry all over the field. That’s why DJ was on him for better or worse 

only we know that isn't true.  The Panthers altered the plan in the 2nd half.   Gilmore did cover Scary Terry in the 2nd half.  

So go pull Scary Terry's first half numbers vs second half numbers.  Elite top 3 DB play > average DB play + elite speed

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

you literally somehow ignored the part in the post where I said " We have been putting Gilmore on the biggest threat of late situationally when it mattered" .    That has been the case in every game of late, except the first half of the Washington game.    We did it with Pitts, we did it with AJ Green, and we did it in the second half with McLaurin. 

again, the snap count arguemnt is bunk.  Gilmore was on the field on all those big plays McLaurin hit.   Because those are the type downs we use him on.  And we went back to using Gilmore properly in the 2nd half.  Which is what we have been doing with Gilmore since he got back on the field. 

It was clearly a coaching decision to alter what was working and was obivous going in.  The staff opted to use Jackson in the first half on McLaurin over Gilmore in the situtions that called for Gilmore.   Gilmore was on the field.  The coaches mindbogginly thought Jackson was a better option because he is fast.   

And the second half, they admitted to their coaching mistake.   And went back to getting Gilmore to solve the biggest threats situationally. 

 

 

 

Again nobody here didn't think DJ couldn't handle the assignment.. 

You're coming up with this plan after the fact.. When reality before the game nobody here had a problem putting DJ on Mcclarin.. 

Reality check for 10 games this season DJ been playing near a pro bowl level...

Why the fug would you think he couldn't do it before the game??

Edited November 23, 2021 by WOW!!

[Waldo]

26 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

This is stupid..

So it's the coaches fault that Sam Darnold sucks and can't read defenses??

That the equivalent of saying if players play like crap its coaching!! What??

That leaves no room for players to ever take accountability something Reddick just said needs to happen...

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

[CRA]

15 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Again nobody here didn't think DJ couldn't handle the assignment.. 

You're coming up with this plan after the fact.. When reality before the game nobody here had a problem putting DJ on Mcclarin.. 

Reality check for 10 games this season DJ been playing near a pro bowl level...

I already told you, it isn't hindsight.  It was discussed on this board before the game.   We have a top 3 DB in Gilmore.  He was the play on McLaurin.   Just like he was on every top threat when it mattered the weeks prior. 

DJ hasn't been playing like a Pro Bowler.  The Jets, Giants, Texans, Eagles, Atlanta games?   Not a single one of those where the narrative of Pro Bowl Jackson was formed featured him shutting down any QB/WR pass connection of note.  They all were horrible pass offenses that were matched up vs  an elite pass rush.   And Jackson was tasked with covering weak WRs. 

McLaurin ate his lunch.  Theilen ate his lunch.   So basically he has one actual good game to his name this year.  Dallas.  I mean we if we talking Pro Bowl caliber play, that is deterined in select games.   I mean, Dallas did whatever they wanted to our D that game.  But he technically wasn't roasted by Lamb.  That's not Pro Bowl DB play on display.   

Jackson is a decent DB.  If you have Gilmore? The play was obivous.  You play the top 3 DB on the stud their O goes through.  The coaches botched the first half.  We all saw the results.  Then they fixed it after the half. 

[Fox007]

17 minutes ago, CRA said:

only we know that isn't true.  The Panthers altered the plan in the 2nd half.   Gilmore did cover Scary Terry in the 2nd half.  

How could anyone argue otherwise lol. Way too much black/white thinking going on here.

The players made errors and went out of pocket AND ALSO the coaches had a poo game plan vs their offense. Hell they even snitch on themselves earlier in the season saying poo like "they did things to us we didn't see on film". Uh...yeah....thats called every game that will happen they are trying to attack  you not other teams they done played....ofc you have to be able to self evaluate and see where/how they would attack your team and then adjust to what they are doing to you.

[RJK]

41 minutes ago, CRA said:

only we know that isn't true.  The Panthers altered the plan in the 2nd half.   Gilmore did cover Scary Terry in the 2nd half.  

So go pull Scary Terry's first half numbers vs second half numbers.  Elite top 3 DB play > average DB play + elite speed

You’re not factoring in that they realized they could run at will in the 2nd half and essentially didn’t have to throw the ball

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Fox007 said:

How could anyone argue otherwise lol. Way too much black/white thinking going on here.

The players made errors and went out of pocket AND ALSO the coaches had a poo game plan vs their offense. Hell they even snitch on themselves earlier in the season saying poo like "they did things to us we didn't see on film". Uh...yeah....thats called every game that will happen they are trying to attack  you not other teams they done played....ofc you have to be able to self evaluate and see where/how they would attack your team and then adjust to what they are doing to you.

Yes.  Two things can be true.  The players AND the coaches can be both take fault in that game.  Specifically defensively. 

not sure why some want it one to fall only on one and excuse the other.

[mc52beast]

He’s obviously talking about players. Evidently we don’t have any Smitty’s around  who I’m pretty sure would call you out if you were continuously screwing up.

[ickmule]

On 11/22/2021 at 9:35 PM, raleigh-panther said:

the Panthers have coaching problems, and talent positional value and evaluation issues, not Cam issues 

100%.