Adjustment question, Djax

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Umm Horn was better and Gilmore is better. He is a good but not great CB and the staff put him in a terrible spot yesterday where a HC that knows all of his weaknesses completely and thoroughly exploited them. That isn't on Jackson but it does back up what I said. I'm not trying to be mean to the guy, he is just not a top CB, he isn't a #1 and he is playing his balls off in a contract year. Still 3rd best CB on the roster and 2nd best healthy CB. 

Are you fuging serious??

Horn played 2 games.. Gillmore has been a part time player.. The player who has been consistently out there and playing is Djax.. And this team for 11 games has a top 5 ranked defense.. That has to mean something..

[cardiackat88.]

22 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Is someone trying to make the argument that you can't expect your "good" defensive players to play good vs good offensive players....is that what i'm hearing lol

 

42 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

No nobody can ever have a bad game here.. No one looks up the actual stats and realize dude has been playing at a pro bowl level most of the season and hasn't giving up many big plays all season..

 

51 minutes ago, Mage said:

He had a down game against one of the best receivers in the game.  

Did he have a down game against a greatly overlooked WR? Abso-effing-lutely.

Was it a poor matchup, YES!

Should he be cut some slack? Maybe as an individual.

Is Djax having a great year otherwise? Yes, he is looking pretty good in pass and run game.

The point is, the coaching staff did absolutely nothing about it, even after multiple glaringly obvious exposures to parts of Djax's game and mismatch. 

The thread is much more about bashing the coaching staff.

 

 

 

[Fox007]

Just now, cardiackat88. said:

The thread is much more about bashing the coaching staff.

Its more about the coaching but DJax and Rhule have both confirmed DJax was trying to jump routes and make a splash play rather than stay with his guy. He figured he was going to pick on Heine and got picked on himself. Once he was clearly doing that he should have been sat for a minute to let him think on it and have Gilmore on 17 anyway as he is their best WR even just coming into the game.

 

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Are you fuging serious??

Horn played 2 games.. Gillmore has been a part time player.. The player who has been consistently out there and playing is Djax.. And this team for 11 games has a top 5 ranked defense.. That has to mean something..

Wasn't he CB #1 in those 2 games?

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, cardiackat88. said:

 

 

Did he have a down game against a greatly overlooked WR? Abso-effing-lutely.

Was it a poor matchup, YES!

Should he be cut some slack? Maybe as an individual.

Is Djax having a great year otherwise? Yes, he is looking pretty good in pass and run game.

The point is, the coaching staff did absolutely nothing about it, even after multiple glaringly obvious exposures to parts of Djax's game and mismatch. 

The thread is much more about bashing the coaching staff.

 

 

 

They did!!!! They went to a zone.. They move coverage over to Mcclarin.. They doubled him.. Then Washington started running the ball down our throats.. And other player in that offense started making plays.. They made adjustments it just didn't work I'm sorry..

[MillionDollarCam]

21 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

They are going to have to make adjustments quicker. That was the knock on the last coaching staff. You get one play and a bounce back attempt. After that, move on for the game. WFT did that with Gibson yesterday. Once he fumbled, he was done for the whole first half because he was shook about it.

And McKissic murdered us… Rivera might have just learned something from his mistakes.

Then when he put Gibson back in he ran like a man possessed.

Not sure if Rivera would have made a change like that while he was here but at least he seems to be learning.

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Wasn't he CB #1 in those 2 games?

But if he hasn't played all year how  has he been the best cb that has played this year??

Edited November 22, 2021 by WOW!!

[CarolinaLivin]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Wasn't he CB #1 in those 2 games?

Idk if the Jets or Saints have a WR1 (Thomas hurt) and I don't remember if Horn was on Cooks vs Texans

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Horn & Gilmore are Man (shutdown) corners. Its what they were drafted highly to do. However you can't say Donte hasn't taken strides and become a solid corner himself this season. Donte is more seasoned than Horn, but Horn has the more physical body and upside talent to have a better career.  And obviously Gilmore's resume speaks for itself. 

I never said he hasn't take strides. I stated clearly he is playing well but still not a shutdown corner. I'm happy for the guy, seriously. I am also not going to pretend he is a top CB in the NFL. That is ridiculous and lacks contexts. He is playing well (good and solid but not great due to his limitations) and has contributed does not equal being a top CB, that's what we were discussing. 

Being realistic isn't an attack on the guy, he is playing better than he ever has but the staff still needs to put him in a realistic and good position or yesterday will repeat. 

 

[Waldo]

Just now, CarolinaLivin said:

Idk if the Jets or Saints have a WR1 (Thomas hurt) and I don't remember if Horn was on Cooks vs Texans

He looked great. God I hope it was a fluke injury. We need that to be a hit and not a miss. 

[WOW!!]

Just now, CarolinaLivin said:

Idk if the Jets or Saints have a WR1 (Thomas hurt) and I don't remember if Horn was on Cooks vs Texans

That don't matter.. He can't be the best CB we've had on the field when he hasn't been on the field 9 out of 11 games...

[CarolinaLivin]

7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

That don't matter.. He can't be the best CB we've had on the field when he hasn't been on the field 9 out of 11 games...

Lol read bro... read. Im not the one you are arguing with. I was adding to YOUR argument. Donte/Gilmore/Bouye this year, Horn/Gilmore/Donte next

[RumHam]

3 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Gilmore: limited snaps/role, will be playing larger role as weeks go by

Horn: Hurt

Bouye: Not sure if he would've shut down Terry, but maybe would've done more as donte had a bad game

Keith Taylor: Had a bad game and don't feel comfortable putting him on WR1

CJ Hen: Had an pretty alright to good game. Don't feel comfortable putting him on WR1.

 

Donte had a bad game but has put together plenty of good tape this year. 

 

YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE HELPED? WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALL YEAR ON DEFENSE AND BRING CONSISTENT PRESSURE.

[Mage]

23 minutes ago, cardiackat88. said:

The point is, the coaching staff did absolutely nothing about it, even after multiple glaringly obvious exposures to parts of Djax's game and mismatch. 

He only had 2 catches in the second half, for a total of 22 yards.