Here's a hot take ( from a nutter )

[d-dave]

Yeah...was it Bill Voth or Darin Gantt or @Zod who said that Cam Newton makes people stupid.  I feel like that is really appropriate in this circumstance.

I mean, I get that the dude is stumping for a group of people who have questionable beliefs in anything, but if we just look at football, it's not even close.  The Golden Calf of Bristol was a fun story, but even God couldn't help him secure a long term starting gig.  TGCOB was a great college player who never had the ability to play in the NFL.

Anyone with 30-40 working brain cells can see that.  Now folks don't like Cam because he's himself?  Welcome to 2021.  Cam helped to break the mold of the dad jeans say nothing QB.  I mean, people didn't like Joe Namath because he was authentic.  For every QB who had an outsized personality, there were always detractors.

Now QBs are much more free to be who they want.  Want to be a white new balance, bowling shirt and acid washed jeans Russel Wilson?  Go for it!  Want to be a whiney melomaniac?  Feel free Aaron Rodgers!  Braided leather belts?  By all means Matt Ryan!  

Cam took the heat, and made it much easier for QBs to express themselves as the person they were - not just the boring mouthpiece of a coach.

[kungfoodude]

32 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Purely? I don’t think so. You can be butthurt and racist lol. He checks the boxes for that. If cam is a criminal for buying a stolen laptop in college then I should be locked up for life for the poo I did as a kid.

I am not even saying he isn't racist, he is a Gator fan.

But that didn't seem as racist as it was butthurt. He's pretty much throwing the book at him. Rumors, innuendos, just pure hatred. That's really usually more sports fan hatred than racist hatred, it's even less rational than racist hatred.

Just my take but I have seen many a hate filled diatribe from butthurt sports fans before and that checks ALL the boxes of that.

[TheRumGone]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not even saying he isn't racist, he is a Gator fan.

But that didn't seem as racist as it was butthurt. He's pretty much throwing the book at him. Rumors, innuendos, just pure hatred. That's really usually more sports fan hatred than racist hatred, it's even less rational than racist hatred.

Just my take but I have seen many a hate filled diatribe from butthurt sports fans before and that checks ALL the boxes of that.

Agree to disagree. It was on some Nolan “fake smile” whatever his last name was level to me. 

[GEM]

Jesus would start Cam.

[Catsfan69]

11 hours ago, T-Wazzle said:

That's a stupid tweet. 

The reason The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't in the league is his own ego.

If he had tried to switch positions when he was young he might have had a chance.

Football unlike some professions is all about merit. At least it's supposed to be. The best players play period.

[Jackofalltrades]

As a Christian I find this utterly ridiculous. 

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

That's a stupid tweet. 

The reason The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't in the league is his own ego.

If he had tried to switch positions when he was young he might have had a chance.

Football unlike some professions is all about merit. At least it's supposed to be. The best players play period.

That was my favorite part of the Bible thumping The Golden Calf of Bristol supporters. They refused to acknowledge his pride not allowing him to stay in the NFL. 

What is the old adage, "Pride comes before the fall?" Whoops.

[Catsfan69]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

That was my favorite part of the Bible thumping The Golden Calf of Bristol supporters. They refused to acknowledge his pride not allowing him to stay in the NFL. 

What is the old adage, "Pride comes before the fall?" Whoops.

I know. 

Tim is a great guy has done tons of great things off the field he's just not a good enough NFL QB.

It's just one thing that people who get emotionally attached to players can't fathom. Who they are as people will always be trumped by their ability to play. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

I know. 

Tim is a great guy has done tons of great things off the field he's just not a good enough NFL QB.

It's just one thing that people who get emotionally attached to players can't fathom. Who they are as people will always be trumped by their ability to play. 

Hence why I roll my eyes at all the "Darnold is a nice guy!" comments here. 

I don't have any evidence that he isn't a nice guy, I have no reason to not believe he isn't a nice guy.

But he is arguably the worst QB to ever play for this franchise and he directly lost us games this season. Directly and almost solely in some games. That's the truth.

No amount of Matt Kalil being a nice guy and being able to get a hot wife will ever make me not angry at how fuging awful of a LT he was.

[Waldo]

The funniest part is he still believes in Teblows as a football player. I get the nice guy thing, weird but if that's your flavor of idol ok. But as a NFL player there is so much obvious proof of why this guy plateaud in school. 

Will this place still have Darnold believers in 5 years? 'He isn't even 30 yet, it could start clicking'. Anyways

Edited November 17, 2021 by Waldo

[pantherclaw]

Everyone wants to play QB. 

Very few can play QB in the pros.

[Snake]

14 hours ago, CRA said:

If the media would have left The Golden Calf of Bristol alone I do think he could of been a backup QB in this league.  Maybe a gadget red zone insertion here or there. 
 

The Skip Bayless type folks that just lied about The Golden Calf of Bristol and made him miserable to bring on your roster…killed what would have been a solid Clipboard Jesus career (minus the hair but plus the Jesus swag).   

Yeah he had a place in the NFL it was just not a starter. 

[Borat]

14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Both would be in the league if it wasn't for off-field stuff and ego. Kap is definitely backup/marginal starter caliber. Denver offered him a contract reflecting of that. He was insulted by it. The Golden Calf of Bristol could definitely be a gadget player for someone. Sean Payton offered him the initial shot at what would ultimately become Taysom Hill's role. He had no interest. He only wanted to be a pure QB. Then he finally took a shot at TE for his old college coach when he was past his athletic prime.

The folks who want to pretend like it's all conspiracy theory about these guys for political/social reasons have to ignore a lot of reality.

100%. The Golden Calf of Bristol is especially idiotic for thinking low A ball was somehow a better career path than FB/TE/Gadget. Kaepernick played his cards perfectly though, IMO – his brand / relevance is 100x more valuable as a "martyr" being excluded from the league, rather than as a decent backup. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Borat

[TheMaulClaw]

Not that it should make a difference, but Cam seems like a strong Christian to me.

Although it's my humble opinion that what religion you are, or what politics you believe shouldn't matter in sports.

I could care less if your a socialist or a trump supporter as long as you do your job on the field, a good teammate, and help sell the brand.