Who do you re-sign

[CanadianCat]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

Odd that Reddick is seen as the odd man out. 

Only cause we scheme pressure. If we just lined him up on the line and rushed with 4 every play then that would be a totally different story. 

[pantherclaw]

Just now, CanadianCat said:

Only cause we scheme pressure. If we just lined him up on the line and rushed with 4 every play then that would be a totally different story. 

He's the single most productive pass rusher. 

[CanadianCat]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

He's the single most productive pass rusher. 

Thats true, but pass rushers are also the most expensive position other than QB. Given our scheme, I think if we had to, we could find a replacement for him easier than Gilmore. 

Im not arguing that he's not good, but if you had to choose either or, given our defensive scheme I would let him go. 

[pantherclaw]

Doesn't matter who you have on the back end. Without a consistent pass rush, they aren't worth it. 

[Peon Awesome]

We can sign all 3, easily. The question is whether that money is better spent elsewhere. I'd sign Reddick, no question. You aren't replacing him. Then play semi-hardball with the corners and see who will accept a reasonable, team friendly offer. If neither, roll with Horn, Bouye, Henderson, Hartsfield and Keith Taylor Jr. That's still a good secondary. 

I feel like a 2 year, $20 million contract for Gilmore would make sense and let the young guys grow into their roles. Patrick Peterson is a good comp and he just got 1 year, $8 million. Just not sure if the market will dictate more than that, and if so, not sure if it's worth it.

[Toker Smurf]

The problem is we also need to resign Cam, DJ and sign a free agent LT.

[Mother Grabber]

pie for spelling re-sign correctly 

[AndrewLaskoski]

No reason to let any of them walk out the door, you can restructure long term pieces (CMC, Moton, Shaq, Robby, etc), structure the new contracts to have low year one cap hits (add on void years included), extend players to lower cap hits (DJ Moore), and maybe save some dollars to facilitate a Darnold move (like with Teddy).

The salary cap is not real and the Panthers have acted like it is for too long. 

[MillionDollarCam]

It’s Gilmore (as the one left out) and it’s obvious (unless he takes a team friendly deal).

He’s 31 and has a significant history of injuries.

- Hand Wrist Fracture (5 Games), Inguinal Hip Tear (Off-season Surgery), Inguinal Groin Pull (1 Game), First Concussion (1 Game - Season Finale), Torn Labrum (Final 4 Games - Surgery), Second Concussion (1 Game - Season Finale), Third Concussion (3 Games), Knee Strain (3 Games), Quad Tear (Final 5 Games - PUP List starting 2021)

Not to mention the age wall for CB’s is right around 27 before they start to decline. In 2019 there were 263 players that qualified for PFF’s coverage grading, only 20 of those individuals were over 30 and only 5 ranked in the top 25 in PFF’s grading (Jason McCourty, Devin McCourty, Richard Sherman, Joe Haden, Janoris Jenkins).

Their current contracts are as follows:

Jason McCourty - still an above average player - 1 yr./$1.2M (Dolphins)

Devin McCourty - slightly above average player - 2 yr./$23M (Patriots)

Richard Sherman - below average player - 1 yr./$1.35M (Bucs)

Joe Haden - slightly above average player - 2 yr./$22.4M (Steelers)

Janoris Jenkins - still an above average player - 2 yr./$15M (Titans)

In all likelihood Gilmore will want a Joe Haden contract and the Panthers will want a Jenkins contract. If Gilmore declines you go with the younger player in Donte Jackson or the elite pass rusher in Reddick.

If Gilmore agrees to a Jenkins type contract then you structure it exactly like the Titans did… cap hit of $4.5M in the first year and $10.5 in the second year. With Darnold, Erving, Bouye, and Fox coming off the book next year there would still be plenty of room to re-sign D.J. Moore.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2021 by MillionDollarCam

[CPcavedweller]

All of them. If the offense can be built, see if you can't get the defensive guys to pull a Tampa for a run at the Super Bowl. The Panthers aren't far off and if the right moves are made at quarterback, 2022 could be the year to make a run.

[AggieLean]

I’m keeping Riddick and Gilmore definitely.

[MHS831]

Taylor has been playing lights out.  Throw in Horn and Henderson (I do not think he is a bust), you keep Reddick and don't look back.  (Hartsfield has been solid as well)

[Pantherxtreme]

All 3 need to be resigned 

[rmoneyg35]

I think we should trade whoever we can’t keep. CBS and pass rushers are always needed and we could get a lot for Jackson and Reddick. Resign them or franchise them and if we need to we can trade them for whatever we need.