Fitterer says " We'll have to do something with Sam. "

[Pimpdaddy]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Oh, I get it. We’ve got $40M more guaranteed in these ex-Jets. I just posted because you said Fitterer learned a lesson on an ex-Jet, so I decide to bring up number 2.

...If you take the 2 best players off a shtty team...ur gonna get sht....its why they are shittyy

Edited November 11, 2021 by Pimpdaddy

[gorillamilitia13]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Think this is getting blown out of proportion. What we will do with Darnold is put him on IR and in 4 weeks see how Cam is doing. Darnold is signed through 2023. Those who were upset we moved too quickly from Cam seem to have no problem doing the same thing with Darnold. Maybe we should learn from history.

But there's a difference between moving on from Can compared to Darnold and I don't think I need to get into those reasons

[Krovvy]

10 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It can’t go down. 208 yards in 9 games as a starting WR has to be close to a record. He’s on pace for 392 yards with an extra game.

His contract isn’t tradeable.

We traded Kelvin Benjamin. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, stbugs said:

Marty’s deal wasn’t bad. Fitterer’s extension was stupid and costly.

That I agree with.  I thought they would let him walk when his contract was up for a pick  but they extended him. I thought then it was mistake and it looks like that is the case. 

[Proudiddy]

1 hour ago, Zod said:

They may be able to get a 7th rounder out of him. 

 

Maybe. 

 

probably not. 

Considering that stat I read the other day that out of 373 passers who have attempted at least 160 passes (or something like that) since they started tracking it, Sam ranked 370th and lower all-time... I would be more surprised if we were able to find a team to take him than I was that we were actually able to bring Cam back.

[T-Wazzle]

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

We traded Kelvin Benjamin. 

Who was on an almost 1,000yd pace when traded. With a 2M salary and a non-guaranteed 9M 5th year option. Not comparable. 

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

He's on pace for his worst year in the NFL, even with an extra game. Even with Walker, and a broken Bridgewater he played fine at the end of last season. His production wasn't like early in the season when Teddy was staring him down, but it was still good for a number two.

Sam Darnold is done. He's doing so bad that even D.J. was on target for by far his worst statistical season. The reason is Sam. I read a tweet earlier that indicated that the last two games of Sam Darnold were statistically the worst in the NFL, ever.

Anderson has done well overall throughout his career. He'll be in the NFL for quite a few more years.

 

Darnold is terrible, but if Robby is so moody as to start dropping balls in training camp because he doesn't like Darnold, he doesn't have a place on this roster, lol.  Hopefully whatever is going on with Robby gets right since he can play well, but he's been his own level of terrible as well.

Also DJ is not on pace for "by far" his worst statistical season, he's a few yards less per game passing than typical and with an extra game he may very well have his best statistical season in terms of raw total output, lol. In 15 games with TB he had only 4 TDs; he's already got 3 with Darnold, and he'll certainly add plenty more now that we have a competent QB.  He's averaging 79 yards from scrimmage per game this season, he averaged 81 the last 2 years and significantly lower than that. Darnold is terrible but we don't need to make poo up to show it... It's visible in plenty of other ways.  DJ is just good enough to get his regardless.  Not the case for Robby.

[Eclipse]

1 hour ago, TheBigKat said:

They can take him out to Lake Norman

[Krovvy]

Just now, mav1234 said:

Darnold is terrible, but if Robby is so moody as to start dropping balls in training camp because he doesn't like Darnold, he doesn't have a place on this roster, lol.  Hopefully whatever is going on with Robby gets right since he can play well, but he's been his own level of terrible as well.

Also DJ is not on pace for "by far" his worst statistical season, he's a few yards less per game passing than typical and with an extra game he may very well have his best statistical season in terms of raw total output, lol. In 15 games with TB he had only 4 TDs; he's already got 3 with Darnold, and he'll certainly add plenty more now that we have a competent QB.  He's averaging 79 yards from scrimmage per game this season, he averaged 81 the last 2 years and significantly lower than that. Darnold is terrible but we don't need to make poo up to show it... It's visible in plenty of other ways.  DJ is just good enough to get his regardless.  Not the case for Robby.

I'm not arguing for Anderson to remain on the roster. I said he shouldn't have been extended, and he should be traded if possible.

I'm not making anything up. D.J. Moore is having a regression. You're not looking at total yards for D.J. — including his rushing yards. The last several weeks have been trending down with Sam. His catch rate is falling. Earlier in the season he had consistently over 10 targets a game with production, but that's been falling dramatically with Sam's mental decline, and the offensive game plan changing to hide his ineptness.

Sam is statistically the worst quarterback in the NFL.

[KSpan]

Forgot how much Fitterer sounds like Hm Jon Benjamin.

[mav1234]

8 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

I'm not arguing for Anderson to remain on the roster. I said he shouldn't have been extended, and he should be traded if possible.

I'm not making anything up. D.J. Moore is having a regression. You're not looking at total yards for D.J. — including his rushing yards. The last several weeks have been trending down with Sam. His catch rate is falling. Earlier in the season he had consistently over 10 targets a game with production, but that's been falling dramatically with Sam's mental decline, and the offensive game plan changing to hide his ineptness.

Sam is statistically the worst quarterback in the NFL.

Fair enough - sorry for going at you a bit!  Sam is the worst QB in the NFL.

I do think it is a testament to DJ that and despite that fact, he still has 79 yards per scrimmage per game, only 2 less than he had each of the last 2 years. That's rushing + receiving total. He has 712 yards from scrimmage.  More TDs than last year at this point too.  The one thing Darnold has been ok with is getting the ball to DJ... everything else... not so much, lol.  But Chuba and Robby's drops earlier in the year really hamstrung us I think.

You're right DJ was trending down the last couple weeks, but it hasn't really been extreme.  Still 70+ yards against NYG (and that is with PJ sailing some balls to him or I think he passes 100 there), and the last 2 weeks have been a shitshow due to the offensive regression & wheels coming off Sam.  Vs MN he probably has >100 yards if he doesnt drop a couple passes, but not all of that is on him (the TD drop definitely was tho).

hopefully we see DJ excel with PJ or Cam or whomever it is that starts vs Arizona and for the rest of the season... although too much excellence may break the bank.

I really hope Robby trends upwards so we can trade him tbh, heh.

[Gucceland]

2 hours ago, Shocker said:

They can’t trade Sam IMO.  No one will take him now

They should cut him and then wait two years and sign him again for $10 million.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah let’s learn from history. Look at Cam’s history which includes a league MVP and Super Bowl appearance, now look at Darnold’s which includes constantly being in the bottom in QB performance. Moving on from a QB that has proven he can play in this league is a lot different than moving on from one who was proven he can’t. I’m not saying this version of Cam will answer any of our problems, but Darnold is certainly not the answer. 

But if Cam is the starter then Darnold is a much better backup than anyone else when he comes back. Why would you do anything this year? Plenty of time to evaluate after the season is over.