QB or OL? Hypothetical qestion

[PappyMay]

Is whatever QB is available at 8-10 (where I expect we pick) really going to move the needle? Take best trade down to recoup the 2nd rounder and get a Olineman in first round. Maybe Riddler will fall to the second to develop.  Take best of both worlds.

[davos]

Might as well draft a QB because we sure as hell aren't convincing the top 1-2, or maybe any of the top 4-5 QBs in FA available to come here.  

[AviationMX]

Agreed and throw in a NFL level OC that can utilize our RBs/TEs for protection and create a rushing attack that gives the D a rest.

[mrcompletely11]

 Build the line this season.  Draft a qb next.  The timeline stinks but at least it’s a plan.  You will ruin whoever you choose if you run a rookie qb behind a line made up of 5th round picks and trash heap free agents.   Build the fuging line.  It’s past time to devote valuable resources to it.   

[Martin]

Draft a QB and sign an experienced QB (Nick Foles?) to compete and mentor. Sign O-line in free agency and draft in later rounds.

Get a new experienced OC.

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, Martin said:

Draft a QB and sign an experienced QB (Nick Foles?) to compete and mentor. Sign O-line in free agency and draft in later rounds.

Get a new experienced OC.

For fugs sake you cannot build a line through free agency.  fuging a how many times have we tried this?   

[Grendel]

I would say build the new o-line.  The floor for this team would be so much higher with a good offensive line.  If we had a good offensive line maybe the Panthers would be a more attractive option to free ageants like Stafford in the future.

[Martin]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

For fugs sake you cannot build a line through free agency.  fuging a how many times have we tried this?   

You can’t if you get mediocre players. But if you sign someone like Armstead at tackle and a very good guard it will certainly help. If you prioritize and am willing to spend you can make a lot of progress.

[kungfoodude]

Depends on the caliber of prospect. QB will always be the #1 priority in the modern NFL. It's the most important position on the field.

But if you have an elite OL prospect available and middling QB prospects, you take OL. If you have elite QB and OL prospects available, you take QB. 

Our issue on the OL cannot be fixed solely by free agency. It will be far, far too expensive. It also isn't going to get fixed in one offseason, the needs are far too many. 

Ideally, get a great OL prospect in round one this year(provided no elite QB prospect are available) and that is at least a start. Add another above average OL in free agency and now we have some base to work from. 

Just keep steadily building and investing in the OL(and any othet obvious holes) while you maneuver for an elite QB. Either in free agency, via trade or through the draft. 

But, both situations have to change. You can't have a bottom tier OL and the worst QB in the NFL. That won't work anywhere.

Edited November 10, 2021 by kungfoodude
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[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Martin said:

You can’t if you get mediocre players. But if you sign someone like Armstead at tackle and a very good guard it will certainly help. If you prioritize and am willing to spend you can make a lot of progress.

How could you sign armstead?

[mrcompletely11]

We haven’t drafted a tackle in the first in close to a decade.  We’ve a franchise player because of it and some of you guys just don’t see it     It’s incredulous.  

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, PappyMay said:

Is whatever QB is available at 8-10 (where I expect we pick) really going to move the needle? Take best trade down to recoup the 2nd rounder and get a Olineman in first round. Maybe Riddler will fall to the second to develop.  Take best of both worlds.

This is a bad QB draft.

I'd probably trade down in the first round to pick up that 2nd rounder we traded away - unless we're in love with whoever is available at our pick.

We need to bring in competent starting NFL players along our iOL - at least two. That will make a world of difference. Whether that's via FA or the Draft I don't care. 

[ForJimmy]

So what’s the expectation here? We draft an elite C or G and roll with Darnold? So we have Erving, Elf, Elite Rookie, ??, and Moton with Darnold behind center. That’s not going to look much different that what we see right now. It’s going to take some FA talent OL to fill all 4 positions. We have 1 pick in the first 3 rounds. It needs to be some placeholders on the OL and hopefully one premium FA to going along with Moton. The QB position can at least be addressed with one pick. What did teams like LAC, and CIN do when their lines were awful? Draft a QB (you have to have one to compete) and then start addressing the OL. I wish we had drafted Fields, so we would be one year further along in this rebuild…

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

This is a bad QB draft.

I'd probably trade down in the first round to pick up that 2nd rounder we traded away - unless we're in love with whoever is available at our pick.

We need to bring in competent starting NFL players along our iOL - at least two. That will make a world of difference. Whether that's via FA or the Draft I don't care. 

Nobody is trading up for a non qb.  It’s pretty rare.  Plus there are enough mid level qbs where teams can just wait.