Argument against starting Matt Moore...

[Mr. Scot]

I'm in favor of starting Moore (have been for a while) but even I have to admit that given the general situation, it may not make a significant difference

Good thing to do? probably.

Change the team into a winner? Doubt it.

So yes, I'm for it, but I'm realistic about what it means. Best case scenario is that Moore shows enough to be considered QB of the future. I seriously doubt it saves the season.

[DaveThePanther2008]

I'm in favor of starting Moore (have been for a while) but even I have to admit that given the general situation, it may not make a significant difference

Good thing to do? probably.

Change the team into a winner? Doubt it.

So yes, I'm for it, but I'm realistic about what it means. Best case scenario is that Moore shows enough to be considered QB of the future. I seriously doubt it saves the season.

Agreed. If we get him into some meaningful games and he flops then we don't have to waste the cash keeping him around as a back up.

We all know pre-season there is no game planning, players are reluctant to put 100% into it (except nonroster players) Give Moore the STARTING line up. Give him a chance in a game that means something.

I was at his 1st game. I thought for a player that had been on the squad only a couple months did pretty damn good. Manage the game and we won.

Jake's interception was basically into triple coverage and the only way it was going to be caught was if he had pinpoint accuracy and he hasn't had that in a couple years.

Jake just does not have the accuracy he used to. There have been too many instances where Jake hit Smitty on a dead run to miss him. He is done. He is overcompensating.

I watched Henne throw and how accurate he was. How many passes did Jake throw behind our receivers. Rarely did he get the ball where a receiver could get YAC.

I have enjoyed watching Jake lead this team. He has brought us more success than any QB in our short history but the fact is. HE IS DONE. This is a perfect time to let Moore have some Playing Time.

Go Panthers

[Sandy Claws]

Lets hear it....

He's worse than Delhomme.

[Davidson Deac II]

He's worse than Delhomme.

Impossible. Might be as bad as Delhomme, but could not be worse.

[rayzor]

Cause Fox is hoping a 7-9 season saves his job and Jake gives him the best chance at doing that :crazy:

The sad thing is I really dont see what difference its going to make. I dont know what anybody has seen in Moore to think he is NOT the answer....

could say this just as well.

[Guild]

could say this just as well.

That's just it we haven't seen crap about Moore apart from the three games he started and when he came in during the Philly game.

I say lets see what he has. If he can checkdown, not stare down receivers, and not eff up every deep throw then he will do better than Jake.

[AKPantherFan]

Impossible. Might be as bad as Delhomme, but could not be worse.

this is just a case of "the back-up QB being the most popular guy in town"

Jake had a respectable game the other night, nothing spectacular, nothing worth benching him.

In his last 4 games he has been good.

Why not bench the defense? The Jake hate is just retarded considering the loss was not his fault.

[PanthersFanNY]

this is just a case of "the back-up QB being the most popular guy in town"

Jake had a respectable game the other night, nothing spectacular, nothing worth benching him.

In his last 4 games he has been good.

Why not bench the defense? The Jake hate is just retarded considering the loss was not his fault.

Nearly every throw that he threw was inaccurate, including most of his completions.

Just because he only threw one interception does not mean he was good.

[Davidson Deac II]

this is just a case of "the back-up QB being the most popular guy in town"

Jake had a respectable game the other night, nothing spectacular, nothing worth benching him.

In his last 4 games he has been good.

Why not bench the defense? The Jake hate is just retarded considering the loss was not his fault.

I have generally been a Jake supporter thru the years, and even after the Arizona game, but once a player proves he can't hack it anymore, he should sit down. Took Fox long enough, but he eventually got wise and sat Stephen Davis down when he couldn't hack it anymore, and Jake is now in the same situation. Deshaun Foster, while not great, was an improvement over Davis. Moore may not be any better than Delhomme, but given that Jake is among the five worst Quarterbacks in the league, its doubtful he can be any worse.

Jake hasn't thrown as many interceptions because they had a very tight leash on him. Thursday, they took the leash off, and we had one interception, along with another that should have been an interception, a lot of overthrown balls, and a poor completion percentage. Teams are daring us to throw the ball. Even Smith isn't getting the attention he use to because the other team knows that its unlikely that we will be able to complete anything over 10-15 yards.

[Davidson Deac II]

And fwiw, I would be fine with sitting the dline, if we had somebody to replace them with. The dline at least has the injury excuse.

[Lumps]

Because Moore can't hand it off to Williams as well as Jake.

He probably couldn't manage to get 3 INT in less than 20 attempts either.

It can't get worse, the difference?

We know Jake will fug it up, Moore is pure suspicion.

That is enough for me.

But if Fox doesn't start Jake it will cause problems in the bedroom...

[JbabyluvsSmitty]

Jake Delhomme just doesn't have the magic anymore.

But Moore has proven in the past he is a great player.

So I say Moore for the win! :wink5: