Darnold getting MRI on shoulder.

[KatsAzz]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Its 18.9 for next year and there is absolutely no way around not paying it.

Now that sucks big time.

 

 

 

[PNW_PantherMan]

8 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

The Panthers picked  up the fifth-year option on Sam Darnolds rookie contract. This means he will now make $18.9 million for the 2022 season. 

Will some salary cap wise person,please inform me about the amount of salary cap hit the team would take if they release him in 2022. Also,how could we get around paying him other than a  trade, which would be almost impossible to find an interested team?.

i think we're still on the hook for a large portion of that even with a trade.  Perhaps all of it.  It depends on how the 5th year option is structured.  I'm guessing its guaranteed.

[BlitzMonster]

7 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

The Panthers picked  up the fifth-year option on Sam Darnolds rookie contract. This means he will now make $18.9 million for the 2022 season. 

Will some salary cap wise person,please inform me about the amount of salary cap hit the team would take if they release him in 2022. Also,how could we get around paying him other than a  trade, which would be almost impossible to find an interested team?.

"In a significant change from past years, the Collective Bargaining Agreement put in place last year calls for the options to be fully guaranteed when exercised. They had been guaranteed against injury only before the change was made in the new CBA."

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/03/fifth-year-option-tracker-for-2018-nfl-first-round-picks/

 

So the Panthers are stuck paying Darnold.  I guess he'll be the highest paid backup next season.  

[KatsAzz]

3 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:

"In a significant change from past years, the Collective Bargaining Agreement put in place last year calls for the options to be fully guaranteed when exercised. They had been guaranteed against injury only before the change was made in the new CBA."

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/03/fifth-year-option-tracker-for-2018-nfl-first-round-picks/

 

So the Panthers are stuck paying Darnold.  I guess he'll be the highest paid backup next season.  

Thanks for the infro. Being stuck with  that much money will certainly  suck, no doubt

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Edited November 9, 2021 by KatsAzz

[Shocker]

5 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

I'm guessing no IR...Don't know if Rhule has the guts to bench him based solely on bad play after that horrific trade and 5th year option

So many fuggin idiots on this board.  Sam will play cuz he plays hurt no worries.  If we see PJ the tank is truly on

[pantherj]

Taking that 18.9 million salary cap hit for Darnold, coupled with CMC, DJ, and a few others hitting payday will pretty much ensure we'll be in some degree of cap hell. We'll have to find budget free agents imo. That being said we're not going to have a good 2022 no matter the cap space. That 18.9 million is just the final nail in an already mostly sealed coffin. It's over. Our only chance is Watson, and Fitterer is turning his nose up at the asking price, so March might not yield any results either.

If we don't like Watson's price tag, then we have to hit reboot on the rebuild. Bringing in another journeyman veteran QB would cause me to stop watching the Panthers, and I've been following them year round for a long time. That's how much I don't want another veteran QB. Why? Veteran QBs help your team win enough games to not have a top 10 pick, and that is unacceptable to me. Winning meaningless games with a vet does nothing but keep our team in QB limbo. I'm out if we bring in another vet unless his is Watson. Otherwise 2022 needs to be more Sam or PJ to ensure we have a top 5 or 10 draft pick.

Trading CMC for future draft capital is a great idea if we can find a fair offer. We need to trade Gilmore as well. Goodbye Paradis and Erving. 2022 needs to be about building the o-line and letting Sam finish his contract. 2023 would yield a top 5 draft pick imo, and that should be spend on a QB assuming someone is worthy. 2024 would yield another top 5 or 10 draft pick to spend as needed. 2025 would be our first possible winning season assuming the QB panned out. If he busts, then 2026 would see another QB at the helm.

I don't want the slow rebuild. We've got to get Watson somehow, or do something else on Sundays until about 2025.

[glenwo2]

2 hours ago, pantherj said:

Taking that 18.9 million salary cap hit for Darnold, coupled with CMC, DJ, and a few others hitting payday will pretty much ensure we'll be in some degree of cap hell. We'll have to find budget free agents imo. That being said we're not going to have a good 2022 no matter the cap space. That 18.9 million is just the final nail in an already mostly sealed coffin. It's over. Our only chance is Watson, and Fitterer is turning his nose up at the asking price, so March might not yield any results either.

If we don't like Watson's price tag, then we have to hit reboot on the rebuild. Bringing in another journeyman veteran QB would cause me to stop watching the Panthers, and I've been following them year round for a long time. That's how much I don't want another veteran QB. Why? Veteran QBs help your team win enough games to not have a top 10 pick, and that is unacceptable to me. Winning meaningless games with a vet does nothing but keep our team in QB limbo. I'm out if we bring in another vet unless his is Watson. Otherwise 2022 needs to be more Sam or PJ to ensure we have a top 5 or 10 draft pick.

Trading CMC for future draft capital is a great idea if we can find a fair offer. We need to trade Gilmore as well. Goodbye Paradis and Erving. 2022 needs to be about building the o-line and letting Sam finish his contract. 2023 would yield a top 5 draft pick imo, and that should be spend on a QB assuming someone is worthy. 2024 would yield another top 5 or 10 draft pick to spend as needed. 2025 would be our first possible winning season assuming the QB panned out. If he busts, then 2026 would see another QB at the helm.

I don't want the slow rebuild. We've got to get Watson somehow, or do something else on Sundays until about 2025.

I get what you're saying but the QB class in the upcoming draft is so underwhelming, it rivals(or even is worse) the previous one.   This draft is not a good one for QBs.

And we both know that Fitterer will trade down no matter what pick we get. 

[pantherj]

Just now, glenwo2 said:

I get what you're saying but the QB class in the upcoming draft is so underwhelming, it rivals(or even is worse) the previous one.   This draft is not a good one for QBs.

And we both know that Fitterer will trade down no matter what pick we get. 

It's looking like Watson or just do something else next season on Sundays.

[glenwo2]

17 minutes ago, pantherj said:

It's looking like Watson or just do something else next season on Sundays.

I'd lean toward watching NFL Redzone myself.

The Redzone with that Hanson guy(not the DirectTV one).

Edited November 9, 2021 by glenwo2