There is no easy fix here

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 hour ago, BlackPanther21_ said:

As good as Horn is, LT is just more valuable and something this franchise has ignored for far too long. We could have picked Slater and still traded for Gilmore/Henderson if we really wanted too. Thats still a very good secondary and now you got a franchise LT for the first time in almost a decade.

If Rhule has learned nothing else this season it should be that good CBs are much easier to find than good LTs.  Hopefully that has sunk in by now and Matt will act accordingly going forward.

[Pimpdaddy]

The easy fix is a QB....look at Green Bay tonight...

[ThPantherFan]

3 hours ago, AU-panther said:

In the meantime you build the rest of your roster without wasting resources on players that won't help us when we finally do find our guy.

Agreed.  Sam is not an elite QB.  Put him behind a solid line (LT especially) and he will be vastly improved.  He has weapons to throw to.  We have 3 great RB's and 2 of them are hybrid enough to run routes to catch passes.  In my opinion the front office failed to build protection for our QB's.  If I'm not mistaken Rhule actually made a statement last year about taking at least 2 years to build the team.  

[amcoolio]

6 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

Did you happen to watch Tyrod Taylor today?

Nope, but to be fair we have a way better team than the Texans have around Tyrod

[pantherj]

It's down to:

A.) Watson

B.) A scrub veteran

C.) A risky draft pick who will take at least a season of losing to develop

Given Rhule's previous decisions we are getting option B. I would chose option A. Option C means a lot of pain.

 

[Proudiddy]

It depends on your definition of "fix it."  

Number one, Brady has to go.  I'm hoping by 1 pm today, we hear that he has been relieved of his duties.  That's step 1, and it may or may not hurt a little short-term, but it's the right move long-term.

Step 2 - Cam is better than any QB on our roster, by a million times over.  If you sign him to a 2 year deal, I'm confident you fixed "it" for at least two years and bought yourself time to find a young QB to develop for the future.

What we can't do is just stand pat.

If there isn't a coach fired or Darnold demoted after yesterday, you lost the team. Period.  The poo has gone on long enough, and Rhule gave Darnold and Brady more than enough chances.  Now the question is, can these coaches put their pride and ego aside and make the right decision for the team?

[mrcompletely11]

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/11/7/22769014/sam-darnold-carolina-panthers-qb-purgatory

 

Just brutal.   "Fixing" this mess is years away.

 

We are about to go into cap hell once we resign Gilmore, Burns, Moore, maybe djax, Riddick, some more olinemen.

 

In short.....we are fuged

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

At least Hurney isn't here to give like Jermaine Carter $45 million guaranteed or something

[Tbe]

58 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/11/7/22769014/sam-darnold-carolina-panthers-qb-purgatory

 

Just brutal.   "Fixing" this mess is years away.

 

We are about to go into cap hell once we resign Gilmore, Burns, Moore, maybe djax, Riddick, some more olinemen.

 

In short.....we are fuged

We were in QB purgatory as soon as Cam got hurt.

Cap hell would be a good outcome because it means those guys chose to stay. Most of them could opt to bail.

[d-dave]

51 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/11/7/22769014/sam-darnold-carolina-panthers-qb-purgatory

 

Just brutal.   "Fixing" this mess is years away.

 

We are about to go into cap hell once we resign Gilmore, Burns, Moore, maybe djax, Riddick, some more olinemen.

 

In short.....we are fuged

Man, what a depressing article..  Very true in all regards about Darnold.

We'll have $23 million in space for 2022, and not a lot of freedom to cut players so we're kind of stuck with who we have through next season.

I think the plan SHOULD be to trade down our 2022 #1 pick to try to get other assets, and see if we can keep guys like Moore, Reddick and Burns.

As far as the draft we have 1 (13th after yesterday), 4, 5, 7th round picks.  Not a lot of ammo after blowing the wad this year with acquiring players.

The team is going to have to get very creative in how it handles players, contracts, as this protracted rebuild continues.

[d-dave]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

This kind of poo makes me pissed. We’ve thrown away $170-180M in cap space on this:

Teddy, Sam, Robby’s extension, Short, Okung, Erving, Elflein, Weatherly, Roberts and Apple

In two fuging years and yet somehow I got the whole bullshit, BS about our culture and how we shouldn’t ignore FAs in 2020 and we shouldn’t start Will Grier, yada yada yada.

My whole premise was to try and stockpile picks like the 3rd (Bradberry) and 5th we threw away, stockpile cap for the bunch of young core guys we need to keep and get ourselves a cheap, rookie QB in what was called one of the best QB classes in a long time. Some variation from that plan was fine but the point was we weren’t going to compete in 2020/2021 so build the core for when Brees and Brady were done. 

It's Tepper's money so let's enjoy that part at least

I'm not unhappy they tried, but the prices they paid is just crazy.  Just crazy for some of those deals, which weren't great when they were inked, and have continued to look like poo.

It's going to be very interesting to see what happens this off season...

[BrianS]

16 hours ago, Varking said:

The fix was keep Teddy and draft Fields. Now that this did not happen the new fix is tank for a real QB. Unfortunately this draft really looks like it only has one or two that would be ready anytime soon. 

The more I look at what is going down this year, both here and in Denver, the more it starts to look like Teddy may not have been all of the problem.  We kept putting it on him that we didn't get it done in the 4th quarter, didn't get it done in the red zone.  I was in that campl  Not saying there weren't some things on him, but . . . 

TB5 is trending to finish the season in Denver with over 4000 yards passing, 28 TD's, 10 INT's, 70% completions.  While those aren't Brady / Mahommes / Rodgers numbers, those are numbers you can win with given how our defense has played.  SB numbers?  I dunno.  But they get you into a winning mentality.

We could use a little of that around here.

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, BrianS said:

The more I look at what is going down this year, both here and in Denver, the more it starts to look like Teddy may not have been all of the problem.  We kept putting it on him that we didn't get it done in the 4th quarter, didn't get it done in the red zone.  I was in that campl  Not saying there weren't some things on him, but . . . 

TB5 is trending to finish the season in Denver with over 4000 yards passing, 28 TD's, 10 INT's, 70% completions.  While those aren't Brady / Mahommes / Rodgers numbers, those are numbers you can win with given how our defense has played.  SB numbers?  I dunno.  But they get you into a winning mentality.

We could use a little of that around here.

the irony is, that with our defense this year, that our staff just wanted Sam to be a game manager which Teddy actually does well.

 

[Rags]

14 hours ago, stbugs said:

Gotta love the unquestioning fan who thinks things are fine and the team could never be wrong. Enjoy the finish of this season. It’s setting up to be a strong run to the playoffs! Don’t worry, we are never out of it.

It's really funny how you took one post and made a grand assumption about my take on the season and this team and this season because I'm not mad and want everyone to get fired and want Sam to combust or some poo.

I'm not even gonna correct you. I'm just gonna let you keep your dumbass assumption.