Steve Smith Sr on Baker Mayfield

[KSpan]

34 minutes ago, CRA said:

Baker is still on a rookie deal.  He actually isn’t being paid to be great right now.  OBJ is paid to be great.  Which he isn’t.  He isn’t a great NFL WR.  He is just a talented guy. 

and if it is all a Baker problem, why is it just OBJ that stands out as not working?  Goes back IMO to why he ended up Clev to begin with 

Even then, it can absolutely be a mix of two things. Can Mayfield need to improve AND OBJ be overrated/not worth his contract and any chemistry issues...?

No surprise a team would choose to retain a viable QB option vs another player in that situation.

[Kuhndog94]

37 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Even then, it can absolutely be a mix of two things. Can Mayfield need to improve AND OBJ be overrated/not worth his contract and any chemistry issues...?

No surprise a team would choose to retain a viable QB option vs another player in that situation.

Especially when the latter is a locker room cancer. 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

Baker is still on a rookie deal.  He actually isn’t being paid to be great right now.  OBJ is paid to be great.  Which he isn’t.  He isn’t a great NFL WR.  He is just a talented guy. 

and if it is all a Baker problem, why is it just OBJ that stands out as not working?  Goes back IMO to why he ended up Clev to begin with 

I have heard many NFL types say that OBJ is a hard worker. Michael Strahan just said it this morning. Sure, he's a diva like many NFL WRs, but I think it's pretty obvious that Mayfield hasn't played at an elite level and had neglected OBJ to actually both of their detriments. 

On an off note, most NFL types say that Mayfield is not an elite QB as compared to the top QBs in the game today. Smith just put his brand of exclamation point on it. Regardless if Mayfield is being paid to be "great"or not, even on the rookie deal, he's still being paid millions, and he's being paid to do better than he has done thus far.

Edited November 7, 2021 by top dawg

[MHS831]

[Shocker]

The Giants couldn’t wait to get OBJ out of the building and now we see similar with the Browns.  Obviously not OBJs fault

[top dawg]

8 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The Giants couldn’t wait to get OBJ out of the building and now we see similar with the Browns.  Obviously not OBJs fault

Gettleman couldn't wait to get him out of the building notwithstanding his newly signed contract.

Of course the Browns couldn't wait to get him out of the building once his father pulled what he pulled. But the thing is, Mayfield was obviously overlooking OBJ. That is on Mayfield.

Edited November 7, 2021 by top dawg

[Moo Daeng]

Mayfield has played well though. The only thing lacking is passing TDs. Everything else is good.  You can't put the TDs on the QB completely. That's also affected by subpar play by your bigtime receiver. 

[Shocker]

17 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Gettleman couldn't wait to get him out of the building notwithstanding his newly signed contract.

Of course the Browns couldn't wait to get him out of the building once his father pulled what he pulled. But the thing is, Mayfield was obviously overlooking OBJ. That is on Mayfield.

Yeah this is totally wrong.  Browns GM said it was much more than what OBJs father did.  OBJ barely cares about playing football most of the time.  Overrated is an understatement.

[top dawg]

25 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Yeah this is totally wrong.  Browns GM said it was much more than what OBJs father did.  OBJ barely cares about playing football most of the time.  Overrated is an understatement.

Bullshit! It doesn't square with everything I've heard from multiple NFL analysts.