good luck anyone who wants to defend fox, jake, davidson, hurney

[rayzor]

hurney should very much be included in this situation.

jake's contract, our lack of decent options at QB, our cap situation that prevented us from keeping good depth over peppers...all those played key roles in us being in the situation we are in now.

hiring davidson....that is on hurney's head as well. he has ultimate say over hiring and firings. he has to take responsibility for failed personnel choices.

it is also on his head that we are without a first round pick next year. he still has time to fix that but the cost may be more than the team can bear.

we have to find a better QB. jake is not good enough anymore. pretending that he is serviceable is fine but having to depend on him rather than having a QB that you can trust to not throw the ball and make completions to your own receiver is stupid. you can't win with a bad QB or an average at best QB without a perfect defense and running game.

[Jase]

cool thread hansel

[CatMan72]

Any way you slice it Fox + Hurney = FAIL.

This is a QB driven league, if you don't have a decent one then you're in trouble. With that in mind, they got us into a situation where we have no viable "PLAN B" at QB according to them, so a 34 year old guy with a surgically repaired arm (a surgery that very few QB's have, so there is very little known about how they respond) who has thrown 14 interceptions as of week 11 and who in general has looked terrible is the best option we have to win?

How did we get here do you ask? We got here because they put the only backup QB they trusted (McCown) on IR so they could run out and sign a guy that they appear to have no intention of using (Feeley), to compensate for a guy they've kept on the roster for 3 years and also appear to have no intention of using (Moore).

[Munkey]

The worst play calling, and even WORSE quarterbacking. Jake overthrew every pass... That 3rd and 1 call we should have ran it knowing Jake was the one throwing it. If we had any other QB who can give his receiver a chance to catch the ball, it might have been a good call.

But f**k me if Jake isn't the most inaccurate passer this side of the galaxy. 19 for 42??? Before half he was like 7 of 19 or something. The guy is just awful and over throws everything. Smith is open and he makes him try and straddle the line with his pinky toes and reach out to grab a first down ball, it's dumb poo like that, that needs to get Jake benched.

"Yay Jake has a good game in every 10 games, he's our hero!" f**k that, get him off the team already..Jeff Davidson should know he's got a Jr. High caliber QB and not call as many pass plays as he did.

[OneBadassCat]

Hurney has put together a talented squad, he shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Jake is Jake. When he's asked to do too much, he fails. When he's asked to manage the game, he does well. He was asked to do too much tonight.

Fox hired Davidson. That's his biggest mistake of his career.

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.

No way dude. Jake didn't even manage the game last night, he couldn't even do that. His arm is a wreck right now plain and simple. I'm sorry but once in a while your QB is going to have to step up and win games. The whole team should not have to be clicking for Jake to play well it's a bunch of horseshit. Jake doesn't even have to be great to do that. If he had the least bit of consistent accuracy we would have put up at least 21 points last night.

2 Problems on this team.

1. Jake Delhomme

2. Inability to generate inside pressure on the defensive line.

[beastson]

Hurney has put together a talented squad, he shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Jake is Jake. When he's asked to do too much, he fails. When he's asked to manage the game, he does well. He was asked to do too much tonight.

Fox hired Davidson. That's his biggest mistake of his career.

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.

F that

I'm tired of this manage the game QB... we need a QB who's great. If not great, can perform extremely well when we need him to. Fox can take his stuck in 03 ass somewhere else

[Munkey]

We need a QB who can actually you know, throw a ball kind of accurate and not be so awful. QB that can manage a game is the most retarded defense anyone can give Jake. We need a QB that can throw to help us win games because just running the ball wont win games alone.

[PanthaSan]

We need a QB who can actually you know, throw a ball kind of accurate and not be so awful. QB that can manage a game is the most retarded defense anyone can give Jake. We need a QB that can throw to help us win games because just running the ball wont win games alone.

Maybe not most times but I think it could have last night....

[Munkey]

Maybe not most times but I think it could have last night....

I already said in my earlier reply, it would have been better to run on a lot of plays last night just for the fact we did have Jake and they should have known better.

[Tank]

I would keep Fox. Can Jake. Find another WR threat. I would play Moore starting next week to see if he has it. If not can him too. I would trade Pep if needed to get the QB and WR.

[KillerKat]

you are going to fail every time. i won't even bother with you. not worth the effort.

now all discussions should be looking toward next year and getting a real GM/HC/OC/QB in.

lol yet there's still a couple Fox and Jake nut gobblers.

[MaineManPanther]

lol yet there's still a couple Fox and Jake nut gobblers.

Who out there has ever tried to defend Jake as being anything but bad this season? Especaily this late?

[KillerKat]

Who out there has ever tried to defend Jake as being anything but bad this season? Especaily this late?

You sure like the taste of their balls

[MaineManPanther]

Great thought out reply and argument. Classy too. Sadly it seems youve been sucking your own dick a tad to much, which is understanble when your gay and on your own.

However youd see in none of my arguments have I ever stated or suggest Jake is anything but bad. In fact Ive said he needs to be replaced.