Reminder: Panthers can opt out of CMC contract at the end of 2022 season.

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, FugginPoo said:

This topic shows the divide between logical and emotional fans.  

Weird how we don't see any "I'm a Panthers fan not a McCaffrey fan" remarks.

[FugginPoo]

2 minutes ago, Varking said:

Then I’m sure we could find somebody who would part with a 3rd or 4th for him and his contract. It doesn’t make sense to release this guy and allow him to pick where he goes and make us look foolish. 

He’s not worth a 3rd or 4th given the size of his contract and fact he can not stay on field

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Stevemary32 said:

I say keep him, but quit overusing him.   When he is healthy, he is used in 70 per cent of the plays.   So, when he gets hurt, our offense is lost.

Can't overuse him when he's on the sideline in street clothes anyway.

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, Varking said:

Then I’m sure we could find somebody who would part with a 3rd or 4th for him and his contract. It doesn’t make sense to release this guy and allow him to pick where he goes and make us look foolish. 

You have to convince a team he is worth the 8M guaranteed base salary he has for next year. Since the Panthers would eat 18M in dead cap, he’s not a huge risk to a team that acquires him. They could walk away for nothing after 2022. Maybe someone takes a chance. I just wouldn’t expect much. 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Toomers

[Harbingers]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Can't overuse him when he's on the sideline in street clothes anyway.

Hire a new fugging strength and conditioning coach. I’ve been saying it all along. This college dude is making our players drop like flies. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

NFL = Not For Long. 

That's what it meant 50 years ago, it still means the same today. Stop blaming the franchise that it is part of the most brutal sport of modern day. 

In another 50 years, the league won't even exist because our society won't even let people voluntarily sign up. 

 

We all get that. Yet look around the league. Find me another team that lost that level of talent to career derailing injuries in this timeframe. We're not losing "good players". We're losing the absolute best players on our team. Guys who are among the very best in the league at their positions. HOF caliber talents. During their prime.

[mrcompletely11]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We all get that. Yet look around the league. Find me another team that lost that level of talent to career derailing injuries in this timeframe. We're not losing "good players". We're losing the absolute best players on our team. Guys who are among the very best in the league at their positions. HOF caliber talents. During their prime.

Cam I agree was on the coaches, Luke was just a string of bad luck.  Nothing the front office or the coaches could have done to stop his brain from being scrambled.   

In regards to cmac they gave him over 700 motherfuging touches in 2 wasted years for some God knows reason.  In then in turn for all of those touches they gave him a totally unnecessary deal to reward him when every metric in the world said that was a bad idea.  So yeah that is 100% on the staff and FO.

 

And your boy had a good game last night.  I only saw the second half.  Still dont want him in the first. 

[Varking]

21 minutes ago, FugginPoo said:

He’s not worth a 3rd or 4th given the size of his contract and fact he can not stay on field

Something is better than nothing. 

[BrianS]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We all get that. Yet look around the league. Find me another team that lost that level of talent to career derailing injuries in this timeframe. We're not losing "good players". We're losing the absolute best players on our team. Guys who are among the very best in the league at their positions. HOF caliber talents. During their prime.

To me it's mind blowing the caliber of player we've lost to injury and otherwise shortened an amazing career.  I'll give them that Kuechly was probably not preventable.  He played the way he played. 

But Cam was 100% on the staff.  I don't care that Cam "seems to take his biggest hits in the pocket" (still a problem) or that "he's big enough to take it".  You don't run your MVP QB in a power scheme at the volume we did it.  That's on them.

I'm not sure what to make of CMC.  There were no signs prior to last year that he would have these issues.  A lot of folks cite his volume of touches, but when you look at it objectively, Barry Sanders had similar numbers of touches.

It does sometimes seem like we're a little snakebit when it comes to injuries.  Even in 2015, who is to say what might have been without all the injuries.

[Moo Daeng]

I realize facts don't matter these days the number of games lost to injury for us is on the mid to low end of the league for this year and last. 

 

Dead center of league last year, COVID excluded

 https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2021/2020-adjusted-games-lost-part-i

 

This year mid low end of league.

 

[TDGone]

59 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Nobody is trading a first for cmc regardless if he comes back next year and plays 17 games. We are one of the few nfl teams that still drafts rbs in the top 10. The other team off the top of my head is the giants and look at Barkley. We are a poorly run franchise. Nfl teams do not value rbs like that. Add in injury history and we would be  lucky to get a 2nd from a team. 

You forgot the Cowboys

[SizzleBuzz]

Is he eligible to come back against the Patriots (wk 9) or the Cardinals (wk 10)?

At present he has missed 18.5 of last 24 games

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We all get that. Yet look around the league. Find me another team that lost that level of talent to career derailing injuries in this timeframe. We're not losing "good players". We're losing the absolute best players on our team. Guys who are among the very best in the league at their positions. HOF caliber talents. During their prime.

It's unfortunate. The cowboys lost aikman. Irving. 

It's not common place but it still happens, and it falls under the same NOT FOR LONG. 

Is it frustrating? Sure it is. But it's still the nature of the game.

[Snake]

1 hour ago, joemac said:

He’s definitely not playing immediately the week he comes off IR. Probably the week after that. Really, who the hell knows ? I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t play another down this season.

I'm pretty sure that's the case. He's gotten to the point in his career where he's probably only good for 3 games a year.