Rhules Contract.

[TLGPanthersFan]

17 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

It’s a SEVEN year deal. Thinking that Tepper expected playoffs in year 2 is naive. 

Thinking Tepper will take losing long enough for that 7 year contract to expire is naive. 

[Sasquatch]

3 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I didn’t really pay attention to the Rhules contract details after he was hired, but now I am curious about how much of Rhules contract is guaranteed so I looked it up. 
Wow, the entire 60 million, up to 70 million, is guaranteed. 
How stupid can you be to give a college coach so much guaranteed money? 
So unless Tepper buys out his contract or, I guess, Rhule leaves on his own. We are stuck with him no matter what happens. SMH. Hope the guy improves then. 

NFL coaching contracts are fully guaranteed.

[unicar15]

17 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

It’s a SEVEN year deal. Thinking that Tepper expected playoffs in year 2 is naive. 

Also…if you think a guy who’s worried about getting fired after year two is going to hitch his future to a previously failed #3 overall draft pick and Bridgewater you’re crazy. 
 

The last two years were Rhule basically trying to build elements of this team (mainly defense) and develop a culture. He wasn’t going to compromise the overall way he thinks you win in order to reach for a guy like Fields. So….we got Darnold. We will see what happens in year 3 but he ain’t going anywhere unless he wants to

[mc52beast]

Tepper makes 70m in his sleep so if after next year this team is still floundering I’m pretty sure Rhule will be fired or he will quit.

[SizzleBuzz]

3 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

How stupid can you be to give a college coach so much guaranteed money? 

Were you a man with $1,000,000 of cash in hand...

...on an equivalent basis it would be as if you contracted with a yard man for 6-years for a total of $4,285.75...

...Tepper doesn't GAF about this contract -- he'll buy it out in a NY minute if necessary.

3 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

We are stuck with him no matter what happens.

Complete & udder bovine dung.

[rebelrouser]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

I'm not a fan of the college route, but I would have more faith rolling the dice on a Dabo type.  And by that, it's just about looking at how he has seen his success.  Dabo at least understands one thing, his success has always been tied to and has been QB centric.  QB play is the puzzle solver for problems.  A lot of college football, especially lower conference play...isn't about that.  

Rhule might can build an overall decent football team.  But he never put the type team together in college that is almost required to win in the pros. 

Dabo? Dabo is an idiot who is a snake oil salesman elite recruiter. He would be an abject failure in the NFL where you can't just out talent your opponent and win a couple of tough games a hear. He can't coach worth a damn and would be worse than Urban. 

[BurnNChinn]

4 hours ago, CRA said:

Tepper has a lot of folks in the Charlotte area he needs to keep happy and excited about sports.  Especially with soccer coming too. 

 

Nobody cares about soccer, take that crap back overseas

[bigdog10]

7 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Hurney is the gift that just keeps giving... Years after he's gone we will still be frustrated by him.

People will continue to poo on Hurney and he’s done enough damage to this franchise to deserve it, however if he had his way last year; we’d have our franchise under center in Justin Herbert. 

[Snake]

8 hours ago, Mage said:

Who cares?  His contract doesn't affect the Panthers.  I'm pretty sure Tepper would have no issue firing him if it came down to that.  Tepper doesn't strike me as someone who would hold onto a bad investment over a mere millions of dollars.

(Not that I want Rhule to get fired.  I think the hate he's getting is unnecessary.  Hard to win with a piss poor QB.  He 100% deserves blame for hedging his bets on Darnold, but he deserves another offseason to correct the issue).

If I'm a betting man I would say Tepper will cut his losses sooner rather than later. He wants to win and having a poor performing team is almost like a black eye to him. As soon as he saw Hurney as a bad investment he cut him loose and I don't think the Rhule to Penn ST is bullpoo. He might be reading the Tepper tea leaves. Either way Tepper is a man on a mission and normally he seems to get what he wants so hopefully that will come sooner than later. 

Edited October 29, 2021 by Snake

[mav1234]

9 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

People will continue to poo on Hurney and he’s done enough damage to this franchise to deserve it, however if he had his way last year; we’d have our franchise under center in Justin Herbert. 

You mean if Herbert hadnt been drafted before our pick? Sure.  Do we know it'd be any different with a different gm?

But Hurney has generally been money in the first.

[BIGH2001]

5 hours ago, unicar15 said:

Also…if you think a guy who’s worried about getting fired after year two is going to hitch his future to a previously failed #3 overall draft pick and Bridgewater you’re crazy. 
 

The last two years were Rhule basically trying to build elements of this team (mainly defense) and develop a culture. He wasn’t going to compromise the overall way he thinks you win in order to reach for a guy like Fields. So….we got Darnold. We will see what happens in year 3 but he ain’t going anywhere unless he wants to

He’s building a losing culture 

[weyco2000]

8 hours ago, Waldo said:

Look at some of the guys still here hired by him and what they do...

That was Teppers biggest mistake, not firing Hurney with Ron and now his stink still lingers. 

I doubt Hurney was in the room when Rhule was hired, he may have had discussed it with Tepper. I’m just glad Hurney didn’t  make Cam the highest paid QB in the league.

[Waldo]

6 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

I doubt Hurney was in the room when Rhule was hired, he may have had discussed it with Tepper. I’m just glad Hurney didn’t  make Cam the highest paid QB in the league.

https://theathletic.com/1520923/2020/01/08/flying-to-waco-sitting-in-an-suv-eating-meatballs-and-talking-football-how-the-panthers-got-their-man/

Hurney was there and a big part of hiring Rhule. That's on Yeppet not Rhule.

[unicar15]

12 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Thinking Tepper will take losing long enough for that 7 year contract to expire is naive. 

This wasn’t part of the argument? But giving someone a 7 year deal does seem to imply that you aren’t going to fire them after the second year. Granted, Tepper could probably burn that money and not care. But considering his business background I’m going to say he has no trouble being patient and waiting for the process to play out.

If this team stays healthy it’s a borderline playoff team. That’s progress in year two. Rhule can’t control that the best player on the team is out and the two best players on defense are out. Could argue the 3 best players on the team have been out over the last 4 games and one of them is a rookie that Rhule preferred. That’s not bad team management. That’s bad luck.