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Mike Florio confirms: It's currently down to the Dolphins and Panthers for Deshaun Watson


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28 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

 

It's interesting that he says that if it happens today it'd be Miami but if the Panthers it'd take longer...What does Florio know if anything?(i'd assume nothing)

So if it doesn't get done today according to one "source" that means better or worse news depending on your position.

Guessing it’s down to Watson in which team he wants to play for. 

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7 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Darnold is going to be the starter simply based on our QB room. It's a sad QB room that needs dramatic improvement.

Who knows if Brady will be here next year based on any of the main reasons being him going to be a HC or less probably the Panthers move on. A lot of poo works in college when the WR is so much better he has 5 yards of separation regardless of if they knew they play or not. Still too early to tell if Brady is actually a scrub but it's not looking good.

Looks like we need a real NFL caliber offensive coordinator. But that will only help so much with the issues we are seeing now the team looks unmotivated and they couldn't even be bothered to put up a fight against a bad 1 win Giants team. I know we have no real option in the short term but it seems clear rn the team is and has lost confidence in the starting qb and it is only going to get worse as the season goes on.

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11 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Nope. like they showed its even when the plays work or are on time.

we have the worst OL in the NFL.   We can only threaten so much of the field realistically because of that.

and yes, Sam Darnold is horrible at reading a field and progressing.  The right throws come and go.  And yeah, people then get covered.   That's the NFL.   Windows close.   He is slow with it.   And when he does find something he too often isn't on time getting it out......  It's why he is a downgrade from Teddy.  Teddy could read the field  and get it out to the right guy on time.   Teddy can move on from the first read before the ball touches his hands.   Sam basically has to have his first read come open....and if it doesn't you basically have 50/50 of horrible Sam living up to his name. 

and you could google and find artcles from this weekend that break that fact down.   and you can find people doing that throught his long career.  that's what he is. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

we have the worst OL in the NFL.   We can only threaten so much of the field realistically because of that.

and yes, Sam Darnold is horrible at reading a field and progressing.  The right throws come and go.  And yeah, people then get covered.   That's the NFL.   Windows close.   He is slow with it.   And when he does find something he too often isn't on time getting it out......  It's why he is a downgrade from Teddy.  Teddy could read the field  and get it out to the right guy on time.   Teddy can move on from the first read before the ball touches his hands.   Sam basically has to have his first read come open....and if it doesn't you basically have 50/50 of horrible Sam living up to his name. 

and you could google and find artcles from this weekend that break that fact down.   and you can find people doing that throught his long career.  that's what he is. 

 

 

Uh yup Sam Darnold sucks. grats?

Doesn't mean brady isn't an issue...and so far film ain't lying

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16 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Well Verge said we have the biggest deal buts it’s not done, I would say he probably doesn’t want to come here?

Id assume they wouldnt be spending all this and effort with the panthers is Watson didnt want to come here. There are reasons other teams are not invovled. They are probably working through all of the financials involved and shopping until the last minute. Once the dust settles, a deal will be approved. 

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10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Teddy could read the field  and get it out to the right guy on time. 

I just want to emphasize how relative these statements are about Teddy vs Darnold.  Yes, Teddy better than Darnold.  Teddy might *throw* the ball on time, but if that wounded duck would reach a receiver on time is anyone's guess. 😛

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2 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

I like PFT but florio has a history of making up details he doesn’t fully know. 
 

It’s down to us and Miami…haters saying he doesn’t want to come here don’t realize we wouldn’t be this far in if he didn’t want to come here.

Let’s say he wants Miami over Carolina: if Miami’s deal isn’t as good as the panthers, he could just stay put right? The Texans have to like and accept the offer as well. 

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21 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Well Verge said we have the biggest deal buts it’s not done, I would say he probably doesn’t want to come here?

Maybe they’re using the Panthers offer to get other teams to up theirs. So may not have anything to do with DW and more to do with getting everything they can for him. 

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4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

I like PFT but florio has a history of making up details he doesn’t fully know. 
 

It’s down to us and Miami…haters saying he doesn’t want to come here don’t realize we wouldn’t be this far in if he didn’t want to come here.

easier to drive up the price on Miami's offer when you have someone else precieved in the deal. 

if it's only Miami, it becomes a straight up take it or leave it offer. 

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4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

I like PFT but florio has a history of making up details he doesn’t fully know. 
 

It’s down to us and Miami…haters saying he doesn’t want to come here don’t realize we wouldn’t be this far in if he didn’t want to come here.

Some of these old shitty QBs do some good film breakdowns at least.

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