Darnold trade looking better and better

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I think you have to take at least 7-8 OL in the next 3 drafts. Sounds crazy but I mean it. There isn't a single member of our roster on that unit worth keeping other than Moton. Not one. That is a hell of a rebuild.

This is reactionary. We have no idea how Brady or Deonte are long term. Brady did some good things today and had some rough patches. Sam is doing them zero favors also.

[MGH1989]

Sam is a competent middle of the road guy if most everything around him is solidified. The O-line and Brady’s play calling did him no favors, but a franchise QB has to go out and win games with deficiencies. Seldom in your career will everything be perfect. Sam just isn’t the long term guy here.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

This is reactionary. We have no idea how Brady or Deonte are long term. Brady did some good things today and had some rough patches. Sam is doing them zero favors also.

This is the same thing that was said about Little and Daley. The fact of that matter is, if you can't make it through this dumpster fire of an OL, you probably aren't going to amount to much. 

Not saying it is impossible but the odds are very low. And, why should we expect anything of Brown? He is a 6th round draft pick. Even making the roster was a win.

[Wanderlai]

At best he can be Jake Delhomme...if EVERYTHING around him is stellar 

[TheRumGone]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

This is the same thing that was said about Little and Daley. The fact of that matter is, if you can't make it through this dumpster fire of an OL, you probably aren't going to amount to much. 

Not saying it is impossible but the odds are very low. And, why should we expect anything of Brown? He is a 6th round draft pick. Even making the roster was a win.

Because he comes from Alabama and his issues were weight. He’s down to 330 now. He is talented. Rhule needs to start playing the rookies more to see what we have with them going forward.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Because he comes from Alabama and his issues were weight. He’s down to 330 now. He is talented. Rhule needs to start playing the rookies more to see what we have with them going forward.

TBQH, he isn't that talented. He is a relatively one trick pony as an OL prospect. Brute strength and size with little lateral mobility or finesse. 

He may end up being a good 2nd string OL here but we only look at him with hope because of how poor the rest of the roster is.

This is shades of Daley. Hoping upon all hope our late round draft OL bails us out.

[TLGPanthersFan]

8 minutes ago, Wanderlai said:

At best he can be Jake Delhomme...if EVERYTHING around him is stellar 

I don't know I remember even during down years Jake was fine. Most years we didn't make the playoffs with him we were injured to heck.

[TheRumGone]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

TBQH, he isn't that talented. He is a relatively one trick pony as an OL prospect. Brute strength and size with little lateral mobility or finesse. 

He may end up being a good 2nd string OL here but we only look at him with hope because of how poor the rest of the roster is.

This is shades of Daley. Hoping upon all hope our late round draft OL bails us out.

I’m not hoping anything. Just that your blanket statement of everyone needs to be gone except moton is reactionary. Play deonte and Brady see how they do going forward. This defense is championship caliber. If we wanna take advantage of that we can’t wait around for 3 drafts. We need a new qb. Gonna need to make some big moves. Cmc should be on the trading block.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I’m not hoping anything. Just that your blanket statement of everyone needs to be gone except moton is reactionary. Play deonte and Brady see how they do going forward. This defense is championship caliber. If we wanna take advantage of that we can’t wait around for 3 drafts. We need a new qb. Gonna need to make some big moves. Cmc should be on the trading block.

We need to improve 8 of 9 players in that unit. That makes us a potentially great team. Luckily making significant improvements across the board shouldn't be that hard. About 4-5 of the guys that have gotten snaps for us wouldn't see the field for the majority of other NFL franchises. 

I can't say I would trade CMC. You need a high caliber player/pick(s) in return and his trade value is probably not that high. Banged up as he has been, I don't think you dump an elite player for the sake of dumping him. You need to get something of significant value in return. 

 

Also, no panic on the window here. We are insanely young on defense and I am not nearly as worried about our ability to continue to replace players on it as I have been with previous teams.

Edited October 10, 2021 by kungfoodude

[rico6]

CMC definitely needs to be on the trade market. Today’s loss definitely sings to the tune of a 9-7 season and if the ability of your QB literally hinges on your oft-injured RB then it’s simply best to part ways sooner than later

[S.A.M]

Fool’s Gold

[glenwo2]

This thread turned out to be a jinx. 

Just saying.   

[45catfan]

2 hours ago, Wanderlai said:

At best he can be Jake Delhomme...if EVERYTHING around him is stellar 

Jake actually had a decent OL.

[Chad_Cota]

38 minutes ago, rico6 said:

CMC definitely needs to be on the trade market. Today’s loss definitely sings to the tune of a 9-7 season and if the ability of your QB literally hinges on your oft-injured RB then it’s simply best to part ways sooner than later

No! He is the only reason we have 3 wins.