Is this the best Panthers pass rush in franchise history?

[SBBlue]

4 hours ago, CRA said:

you can nitpick anything....his overall resume is what it is.  He has put 3 different teams in the top 5 defensively.   If that isn't a good DC, then I don't know what one is.   Ron was the same way.  Multiple teams and did it in multiple schemes.  The fact they suck as HCs is overpromotion....which you see often in sports. 

and it's the present day NFL.  The entire league is too comically catered to aid the offense against a defense.  So defenses are going to get got.  

Maybe they're starting slow, because right now WFT has the 31st ranked D.  In fact, the Bills, Chargers and Giants have their BEST offensive games so far this season against the WFT.  The Giants for instance had 346 yards of offense against Atlanta, but 391 against WFT.

[bigdavis]

There's a difference between comparing individual 2-man teams of rushers, and comparing unit pressure.

In the latter case, this is developing into an historic defense.  Not just Panther history, either.

The reason is that we've assembled a group of fast, versatile players, who can rush the passer or drop in coverage, without the OL having a clue who to block.

Pressure from all directions.

[pantherclaw]

Even with our starting 4 linemen off the field, we can still rush the passer with just the linemen.  

 

Not sure who thinks any other pass rush in the history of the franchise  is as good. 

 

[KendrickPanther]

These guys are special. I do worry they won't be able to handle a big run first offense. Won't know until we see it. The fact we've never trailed in a game has helped them play to their strength.

[AU-panther]

 

Everyone sees the D-line get to the QB but a large reason we are having success defensively is because of our coverage. 

Everyone thinks a D-line makes a secondary look good but in reality your secondary has to be good enough to allow your D-line to be good.  

[outlaw4]

We'll have a better picture after the Dallas game. This group will seriously enter the conversation if - even if we end up losing - whack Dak like a pinata. Forget the stats; I don't recall our pass rush being this violent against opposing quarterbacks. That and it's not where our opponents can focus on just one or two guys either. Whatever we're doing is giving just about everyone a shot at the quarterback at some point, via skill and/or design. The question is whether we can sustain this or whether injuries/opponents getting smarter will set us back.

[mc52beast]

Don’t know about pass rush but from a talent perspective this defense has more than any other I can remember.

[j2sgam]

11 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Del Rio was special, too bad we couldn't hold onto him

DelRio has that Norv Turner syndrome, great coordinator, doodoo HC… proven…

 

Hardy was a beast in ‘13, but 15 sacks is misleading… 8 through 14 games, 7 in last 2..granted those 2 were Ryan & Brees, much needed division wins but still.. loved Greg way back but let’s be real…

[j2sgam]

We’ll see on this squad, damn sure looks promising… can’t gloat on hypotheticals, can absolutely cock your chin at past tense…. 
 

keep it up, Keep Pounding….

[OldhamA]

As individual talents, no.

As a unit, quite possibly. We'll see what happens when teams start adjusting to what we're doing as a scheme (we're stressing protections).

[micnificent28]

19 hours ago, Ace420 said:

Too early to tell, but it could be. It is certainly the most aggressive scheme we have ever run.

This is the correct answer 

[micnificent28]

9 hours ago, OldhamA said:

As individual talents, no.

As a unit, quite possibly. We'll see what happens when teams start adjusting to what we're doing as a scheme (we're stressing protections).

I wouldn't say this team is far off from it in the individual talents area... name a more individually talented team.. and still it's early 

[t96]

I say it's too early to say -- possibly but probably not. Our pass rush in 2013 carried the defense to a top 2 and frankly historic season. That secondary was a bunch of nobodies who didn't have to cover very long since our pass rush was getting home so fast. Secondary was a weakness masked by the elite pass rush that year.

 

This year's sack numbers and pass rush have definitely been benefited by our secondary actually being a strength so far this year. With Horn out they'll have a real test ahead of them, even with the CJ addition. We've gotten a fair amount of coverage sacks this year, which are awesome but partly due to the secondary rather than our elite pass rush. But even still our pass rush is the strength of the D. Just not sure yet if it's on 2013's level or surpasses it

[OneBadCat]

I think this years secondary has been aiding the pass rush. Which isn’t something you could really say for prior teams.

2013’s 4 man front was probably the best we’ve seen in terms of consistent in your face pressure.

This years team has a better rush in totality if you factor in the talent plus the scheme.