New Base Defense -- Odd Fronts**

[SetfreexX]

Noticed this a lot in pre-season and across Weeks 1 & 2, I know we've all heard the 4-3 Under talk, but I've been seeing odd fronts regularly from the defense, and I LOVE IT!

With buys like -- Burns / Haynes / Reddick / Luvu able to stand and move, drop, and rush it's been nice to see what we've been able to do when you pair that with -- Brown / Jones / Fox / Gross-Matos / Roy Nixon on the DL

Below is our pre-season, starting defense versus PIT in game #3

Left to Right

DL - Brown / Jones / Fox

EDEGE / OLB - Burns / Reddick

ILB - Thompson / Carter Jr

Secondary - Horn / Jackson

Safety - Chinn / Burris

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Below from the 2nd quarter versus NO, this actually looks to be a sub package for Nickel (3-3-5 alignment) another Odd front variant

In this one looks to be from left to right...

DL - Nixon / Jones / Fox

EDGE / OLB - Reddick / Burns

MLB - Shaq

Secondary - Horn / Jackson / Melvin

Safeties - Chinn / Burris

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It's nice to see the athleticism, and versatility we are starting to employ after years of the heavy zone, and static alignments under Rivera.

Anyone else notice this, what are your thoughts?

 

 

[therealmjl]

Phil Snow looks like a guy you’d see walking out of the nearby gas station with a pack of reds, case of Bud heavy and a bag full of pickled eggs and beef jerky but he is putting on a clinic every Sunday and has been since he strutted into BoA.

[Daddy_Uncle]

It's refreshing to have creative coaches 

[thefuzz]

Doing this with a LOT of youth too...which is awesome.

[NCBlu]

Look at Temple tape they love to have a DE that can rush and drop. Seems more of a 4-3 odd with the DE (Burns) standing so you won't know if he dropping or coming 

[Khaki Lackey]

7 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Phil Snow looks like a guy you’d see walking out of the nearby gas station with a pack of reds, case of Bud heavy and a bag full of pickled eggs and beef jerky but he is putting on a clinic every Sunday and has been since he strutted into BoA.

I've liked Phil from the jump. He has prototypical grizzled football guy written all over him.

[mav1234]

9 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Phil Snow looks like a guy you’d see walking out of the nearby gas station with a pack of reds, case of Bud heavy and a bag full of pickled eggs and beef jerky but he is putting on a clinic every Sunday and has been since he strutted into BoA.

I have to admit I thought Snow was some kind of weird Rhule charity case from his bio... But man, that's why Rhule is in charge of a football team and I'm on CarolinaHuddle from my couch.

Snow has surprised so many ways.  If he keeps this defense flying around the field it'll be one of the best we've ever fielded.

[SetfreexX]

Snow gives off Dick LeBeau vibes from the 2000's Steelers. 

[Jon Snow]

12 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Phil Snow looks like a guy you’d see walking out of the nearby gas station with a pack of reds, case of Bud heavy and a bag full of pickled eggs and beef jerky but he is putting on a clinic every Sunday and has been since he strutted into BoA.

He's the kind of guy that you want to sit down with and listen to him discuss football over a beer or 12.  Imagine the stories he could tell. 

[cardiackat88.]

Some of the most successful defenses in the last decade didn't seem to truly have a base.

Take for instance the Seahawks and Legion of Boom. Lots and lots of pass rusher types and no real true 3-4 or 4-3. That defense also had lots of versatile players that didn't limit the defense.

Rivera's D the last few years he was here was a very standard looking 4-3 without much of anything different.

[therealmjl]

12 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I have to admit I thought Snow was some kind of weird Rhule charity case from his bio... But man, that's why Rhule is in charge of a football team and I'm on CarolinaHuddle from my couch.

Snow has surprised so many ways.  If he keeps this defense flying around the field it'll be one of the best we've ever fielded.

I usually huddle from the toilet. But, to each their own

[mav1234]

2 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

I usually huddle from the toilet. But, to each their own

That explains the crap that's been floating around here lately

[bigdavis]

11 minutes ago, cardiackat88. said:

Rivera's D the last few years he was here was a very standard looking 4-3 without much of anything different.

Every pre-season, there'd be a few posters suggesting we change to a 3-4 front, but they'd always be shouted down by the irrefutable logic that we DIDN'T HAVE THE PLAYERS TO DO THAT.

Now all this "versatility" emphasis has changed all that nonsense.  Remember the "amoeba" fronts some DCs employed?

We've now gotten ourselves an "octopus" defense.

[t96]

23 minutes ago, cardiackat88. said:

Some of the most successful defenses in the last decade didn't seem to truly have a base.

Take for instance the Seahawks and Legion of Boom. Lots and lots of pass rusher types and no real true 3-4 or 4-3. That defense also had lots of versatile players that didn't limit the defense.

Rivera's D the last few years he was here was a very standard looking 4-3 without much of anything different.

We ran a 3-4 in Rivera's last year, and it was mostly a disaster.