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Graham Gano has now made 34 straight field goals

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So it actually helps Gano since he benefits from that skew. Still one of the worst.

Crazy that despite 33 yard extra points counting for him, Gano's average kick distance was 46.4 yards. So that means the overwhelming majority of his field goals were 50+. Which makes 63% pretty average at least. 

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2 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Um no the opposite, he kicked 33yd XPs for most of his career. 

XPs simply didn't count toward the data prior to them getting moved back. 33 yards is shorter than the average distance for every kicker on the list. Having XPs count toward his clutch numbers shortened his overall average distance and gave him an advantage versus kickers who kicked their entire career prior to this change. Take away those XPs and Gano's clutch percentage likely stops. Maybe considerably.

 

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

XPs simply didn't count toward the data prior to them getting moved back. 33 yards is shorter than the average distance for every kicker on the list. Having XPs count toward his clutch numbers shortened his overall average distance and gave him an advantage versus kickers who kicked their entire career prior to this change. Take away those XPs and Gano's clutch percentage likely stops. Maybe considerably.

 

You’d have to dig into the numbers to prove that. I think it’s unfair to weight XPs for some kickers and not others because of a rule change. I think Gano was honestly worse closer to the goal posts than further away. I think if you take away the XPs his numbers might actually improve.

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15 minutes ago, hepcat said:

You’d have to dig into the numbers to prove that. I think it’s unfair to weight XPs for some kickers and not others because of a rule change. I think Gano was honestly worse closer to the goal posts than further away. I think if you take away the XPs his numbers might actually improve.

It would be unfair to count XPs back in the day when missing an XP was an extreme rarity. That would falsely inflate the numbers.

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27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

XPs simply didn't count toward the data prior to them getting moved back. 33 yards is shorter than the average distance for every kicker on the list. Having XPs count toward his clutch numbers shortened his overall average distance and gave him an advantage versus kickers who kicked their entire career prior to this change. Take away those XPs and Gano's clutch percentage likely stops. Maybe considerably.

 

You probably want to actually look at the data that's available. His average distance was 46.4 yards. That's 2nd most on the entire list and by a considerable margin. The difference in yardage between Gano and 3rd place (43.6 yards or 2.8 yards difference) is the same as the difference between 3rd place and 19th place on the list. In other words, Gano (and Zuerlein at a whopping 48.4 yard average) is a huge outlier and was faced with harder kicks than the average person. If he had an equal number or xps and field goals, his average field goal would've had to be 59.8 yards. Obviously they aren't equal, but even if you assume 2 to 1 in favor of field goals, that's an average of 52.5 yards per field goal. Not a chip shot.

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9 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

You probably want to actually look at the data that's available. His average distance was 46.4 yards. That's 2nd most on the entire list and by a considerable margin. The difference in yardage between Gano and 3rd place (43.6 yards or 2.8 yards difference) is the same as the difference between 3rd place and 19th place on the list. In other words, Gano (and Zuerlein at a whopping 48.4 yard average) is a huge outlier and was faced with harder kicks than the average person. If he had an equal number or xps and field goals, his average field goal would've had to be 59.8 yards. Obviously they aren't equal, but even if you assume 2 to 1 in favor of field goals, that's an average of 52.5 yards per field goal. Not a chip shot.

He's a career 63% 50+ yard kicker. He's a career 83% 40-49 yard kicker. The guy just sucks at clutch kicks.

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40 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It would be unfair to count XPs back in the day when missing an XP was an extreme rarity. That would falsely inflate the numbers.

They shouldn’t be counted at all. It could be a separate statistic for kickers post 2015. XPs are worth 1 point. FGs are 3. And they’re weighted the same in that metric. Not fair.

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3 hours ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

He did have that one bomb against the Giants but other than that I think your correct.

People tend to remember the bad more than the good.  Truth is that regarding game winners, he made more than he missed.

2013 hit game winner vs the forty niners, although it was at the 10 minute mark of the 4th qtr.  
2015 hit game winner in ot against the Colts
2015 hit game winner against the Giants after they came back from a big lead
2017 hit game winner against the Patriots in New England after they came back
2018 The big one against the Giants.  

 

 

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Panther Gano is still better than anyone since.

Shame on you smooth brains that hated on Gano cause he went 35/36.

Yea got injuried, guess what is also got healthy!! then CUT!!

I defend him all the time, same for bradberry(who looked sorta bad vs wft), even shaq(not the salary). Can not bump threads cause huddle doesnt keep older enough records and locks old threads. Huddle needs to read their collective thoughts and go sit in their shame closet....

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1 hour ago, hepcat said:

They shouldn’t be counted at all. It could be a separate statistic for kickers post 2015. XPs are worth 1 point. FGs are 3. And they’re weighted the same in that metric. Not fair.

But they're not. It's only about kicks that can tie or create a lead. Regardless of the actual points scored, those kicks are basically equal. 

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