Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Perspective, Directive, and Erective - The Panthers offensive woes and you


Zod
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

My guess is that they probably will when the games count. 

It's possible we dumpster dive for a FB during roster cuts too. IIRC, that was mentioned by the staff in a press conference in the last couple of weeks. Not the dumpster diving specifically but the fact that a FB might be brought in.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

No biggie that a vanilla play in the pre-season didn't work.  It was an experiment to judge OL blocking.  They found out who couldn't cut it.  These 3 games are more a process of elimination, rather than an effort to win meaningless games.  As @Zodsaid, this one play might decide who plays where on the OL.  If so, even better than had we scored.

We went out and got 2 very tall play-making receivers, whose specialties are EZ catches.  In regular game situations, look for play-action, then a pass to one of those boys, in the back of the EZ.  6 points.  Fine with me if we convince the league that we've learned nothing, and will continue to run it up the middle.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, kungfoodude said:

It's possible we dumpster dive for a FB during roster cuts too. IIRC, that was mentioned by the staff in a press conference in the last couple of weeks. Not the dumpster diving specifically but the fact that a FB might be brought in.

I must've missed that.  Makes sense if they keep fewer TE's in the roster and want to keep them healthy. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I must've missed that.  Makes sense if they keep fewer TE's in the roster and want to keep them healthy. 

I could be wrong and perhaps I am recalling a speculative article that wasn't quoting them directly. I do remember seeing something regarding FB and possibly adding one, however.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

For me redzone concerns are less about the personnel which will be different week 1 anyway and more about the situational playcalling. It left some things to be desired last year and not all of that was on Teddy. Hoping we learned some lessons in that area.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but we've seen CMC come up short in those situations in real games before and we know that he is an elite player. It's possible to get bailed out by a great player and great FB in some situations but if your OL doesn't execute in goal line, 95% of the time you are gonna be sunk in a situation like that. 

That's why having a Cam or Josh Allen type QB bailed can bail you out in those scenarios. It's like having another giant FB on the field.

Well when you have weak OL play….it certainly doesn’t aid to have embarrassingly weak FB/lead blocking play added to that.  

Guy could watch Temble’s college type to learn some pointers.  

If that is the case, Brady shouldn’t call plays  that center around that one block.  That goal play did.    The design of that play putt it all on the FB taking out that one defender.  Which he didn’t come close to.  

Just seems like an easy fix.  Get an actual FB. Or see if Tremble can do what he did in college at this level.   Because using guys like Thompson there isn’t going to help CMCs odds. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

For me redzone concerns are less about the personnel which will be different week 1 anyway and more about the situational playcalling. It left some things to be desired last year and not all of that was on Teddy. Hoping we learned some lessons in that area.

I also don't think there are going to be many times we go hat on a hat in a goal line scenario with no wrinkles. Our OL is subpar and our OC likes to get cute(sometimes perplexing) in those spots. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

 No I understand completely when we looked like we did we will be lucky to win 6 games this year. Teams that are 0-2 right now are teams with MVP quarterbacks. Repsond back to me when u think you know more about football!

You do realize the guys that got the majority of the snaps last night will not see the field much or even be on the team when the regular season starts?

0-2 in preseason means diddly squat. 

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

Well when you have weak OL play….it certainly doesn’t aid to have embarrassingly weak FB/lead blocking play added to that.  

Guy could watch Temble’s college type to learn some pointers.  

If that is the case, Brady shouldn’t call plays  that center around that one block.  That goal play did.    The design of that play putt it all on the FB taking out that one defender.  Which he didn’t come close to.  

Just seems like an easy fix.  Get an actual FB. Or see if Tremble can do what he did in college at this level.   Because using guys like Thompson there isn’t going to help CMCs odds. 

I think they got the information they needed from those results.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, hepcat said:

Red Zone play calling is an issue again. Brady should have called 4 pass plays to test Darnold at the goal line. They’re coddling his ass way too much.

CMCs best running is done up the middle. Well between the Tackles anyways. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

44 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Yeah let’s just lose in front of our biggest home crowd in over a year. That’s awesome go team!

17 game season bud. 3 preseason games in 12 days with two separate joint practices in the middle. 

They ran out of their base set at the goaline

i think the health of the players is more important to the coaches than, “biggest home crowd in two years”

also that goal sequence was all out of base, if anyone needed further proof about how much they didn’t give af about that drive.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • While we're talking a fresh prospect that I happen to be a fan of, might as well get on a soapbox: Point 1 - He is not undersized by any means, his length is far above the mean His wingspan is in like the 85th percentile. An interesting note - his wingspan is 5 inches over Khalil Mack, 2 inches over Will Anderson's.  Only 1/2 inch away from the no-production yet size hyped 6'5 267 Shemar Stewart's. For comp - Ez's is around 83", arm length 34".  For NFL comp, the mean for wingspan is 80" and arms 33.5" at for starting EDGE defenders.  So it's not just my isolated comparisons. Point 2 - He isn't just a flashy "pass rush specialist" His film (and testing) shows elite quickness, hand work, and ability to play with the heads of OTs that normal prospects don't grasp. (see my prior post) Testing wise, one of the fastest 3-cones and short shuttles for an edge in years.  Fastest this year for both -- and those two drills are the ones teams look at for pass rushers, usually very indicative of success.  His quickness is off the charts. He's a guy that played well, showed well to those casually watching and those film-studying.  Then he goes out and tests well to back it up.  Apparently interviews super well.  So, I think it's all about his capacity/potential as a run defender.  That's really what it comes down to.  Can he be a 3-down guy or is he a specialist?  I see a 3-downer, his run defense is better than given credit for. A breakdown Ez vs. the NFL mean Arm Length: 34" vs. 33.5" (over) Wingspan: 83" vs. 80" (over) 3-Cone: 6.94 sec vs. 7.23 (WELL over, 95 percentile) Short Shuttle: 4.19 vs. 4.424 (over) Height: 6'2 1/2 vs. 6'3 (slight under) People look at the height a smidge under 6'3 and take that without considering the rest.   I think with Ez, it all comes down to what teams think his run defense upside is.  All it takes is one team - if they think he can become more that a passing down guy, then he could go high.  But if guys like Nik Bonitto and Haason Reddick can turn into these all-arounders, I don't see why this kid can't either who has higher pedigree and better measurables. Now, I prefer Graham, Walker inside, Will Johnson, Barron, and some others over him, but once we're in this tier outside of the top guys, I find the argument way more compelling for Ez over a Mykel Williams or Shemar Stewart.    
    • Well if we’re bringing this guy with character issues in for a visit why not consider Mike Green at 8!? 
×
×
  • Create New...