Trubriski Rolling

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Me too. I sure hope we were wrong!

The Darnold stans get triggered by my substantial doubt, but trust and believe I'll be THRILLED if I turn out to be dead wrong and Darnold is an absolute stud.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

The Darnold stans get triggered by my substantial doubt, but trust and believe I'll be THRILLED if I turn out to be dead wrong and Darnold is an absolute stud.

Remember, they believe it is impossible to doubt him and still hope he succeeds.

Doubt = pure hate. It's Huddle 101.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Remember, they believe it is impossible to doubt him and still hope he succeeds.

Doubt = pure hate. It's Huddle 101.

It's weird. It's like if you don't engage in Olympics level mental gymanstics to convince yourself that Darnold is a HOF talent just held back by the Jets then you're nothing but a hater.

I don't THINK that Darnold will ultimately work out. But I HOPE that he does because that's what is best for the Panthers.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's weird. It's like if you don't engage in Olympics level mental gymanstics to convince yourself that Darnold is a HOF talent just held back by the Jets then you're nothing but a hater.

I don't THINK that Darnold will ultimately work out. But I HOPE that he does because that's what is best for the Panthers.

The mental gymnastics are rampant here these days. Robby Anderson not wanting to be here, Super Bowls being won and lost by our lack of playing Sam Darnold in the preseason, this year fielding a top 10 defense, the 2021 draft picks being the best in Panthers history, etc, etc.

I get discussing and debating but it isn't all polar extremes. Darnold has been a bust, so expecting him to continue to be a bust....is pretty fuging logical. Doesn't mean we all can't hope he is the outlier. If so, great news! We have our guy and much rejoicing! 

But, really, is this any different than last season? I definitely remember the level of mental gymnastics that were going on about Teddy Bridgewater. poo, that lasted until about 10 games into the season. 

Edited August 23, 2021 by kungfoodude

[SmokinwithWilly]

I thought Darnold and Trubisky would have both been good pickups, especially given what he signed for. 2 guys with starter experience, competition for a starting role. Win win

[Sir Purr]

On 8/21/2021 at 2:10 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

People don't like to hear it, but Trubisky has shown more promise on an NFL field than Darnold. If we were going with a veteran non-Watson QB, my preference was 1. Gardner Minshew 2. Mitchell Trubisky. Honestly, Darnold wasn't even on the list. 

It's going to be so glorious to see you proven wrong about Darnold.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Sir Purr said:

It's going to be so glorious to see you proven wrong about Darnold.

No one will be happier than me.

The stans will just move on to their next chosen one. They didn't skip a beat between Teddy and Sam. Same energy.

 

[shaqattaq]

37 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The mental gymnastics are rampant here these days. Robby Anderson not wanting to be here, Super Bowls being won and lost by our lack of playing Sam Darnold in the preseason, this year fielding a top 10 defense, the 2021 draft picks being the best in Panthers history, etc, etc.

I get discussing and debating but it isn't all polar extremes. Darnold has been a bust, so expecting him to continue to be a bust....is pretty fuging logical. Doesn't mean we all can't hope he is the outlier. If so, great news! We have our guy and much rejoicing! 

But, really, is this any different than last season? I definitely remember the level of mental gymnastics that were going on about Teddy Bridgewater. poo, that lasted until about 10 games into the season. 

Part of what is tampering my expectations with Darnold is that I bought in full throttle with Teddy, NOT for 10 games though, lol. that gig was up after a few. At least teddy had been a good backup for NO the year before, just not a starter quality guy anymore.

Since I am an eternal optimist though, I have to believe that Darnold has all the tools to be a quality starter in the NFL (I didn't say MVP), and we just need to help him play up to that potential. But I've been hurt before.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Part of what is tampering my expectations with Darnold is that I bought in full throttle with Teddy, NOT for 10 games though, lol. that gig was up after a few. At least teddy had been a good backup for NO the year before, just not a starter quality guy anymore.

Since I am an eternal optimist though, I have to believe that Darnold has all the tools to be a quality starter in the NFL (I didn't say MVP), and we just need to help him play up to that potential. But I've been hurt before.

He doesn't have any less potential than he did when he was drafted but neither does Josh Rosen. As a buddy of mine once said to me, "Potential just means you haven't done poo yet." So, we will see if he can do some poo. 

We all get to suit up on Sept. 12th and hopefully watch the beginning of the continued march forward for the franchise, whether the steps be small or large.

[Snake]

On 8/21/2021 at 2:10 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

People don't like to hear it, but Trubisky has shown more promise on an NFL field than Darnold. If we were going with a veteran non-Watson QB, my preference was 1. Gardner Minshew 2. Mitchell Trubisky. Honestly, Darnold wasn't even on the list. 

Can't say I disagree. I think even our first choice was Watson until he got into trouble.

[Fox007]

On 8/22/2021 at 2:43 AM, kungfoodude said:

Yea I mean clearly Minshew can play. Trubisky who knows, could also be the HC at issue there but can be hard to tell like with Darnold. They both could turn out to actually be good. I think what will continue to be at play though is more being put on coaches to actually do something with their talent.

I don't think we'll be seeing too many Jeff Fishers as clearly a HC/OC coulda done something with Vince Young. Still happens but those teams have long been outcompeted by coaches with even basic intellect.

[Fox007]

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

Part of what is tampering my expectations with Darnold is that I bought in full throttle with Teddy, NOT for 10 games though, lol. that gig was up after a few. At least teddy had been a good backup for NO the year before, just not a starter quality guy anymore.

Since I am an eternal optimist though, I have to believe that Darnold has all the tools to be a quality starter in the NFL (I didn't say MVP), and we just need to help him play up to that potential. But I've been hurt before.

Well its basically certain he won't have an OL worth a poo so there's still that....basically what every QB here has had to deal with

[Sir Purr]

On 8/21/2021 at 2:10 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

People don't like to hear it, but Trubisky has shown more promise on an NFL field than Darnold. If we were going with a veteran non-Watson QB, my preference was 1. Gardner Minshew 2. Mitchell Trubisky. Honestly, Darnold wasn't even on the list. 

MiNsHeW!!!!

LOL

Edited September 19, 2021 by Sir Purr

[TheCasillas]

@LinvilleGorge at least was hoping for Darnold to succeed. As of right now, this thread didn’t age well.