No chance

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

They didnt fake being a Panthers fan for years, then jump ship and reveal true colors once their favorite player left.

Who faked being a Panthers fan? I was up front from the beginning I was a fan of Cam. And didn’t even post about him during those 5 years. How do you root for a QB and not want his team to win. 
 

    I was told to be around for when the team proved last year they would have a winning season. So I stuck around. Still waiting. Anything else you want to make up?

[CRA]

10 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

We were the 8th worst team last year, why would you think we’ve gotten worse? Seriously, we’re going to have to cut some really good players to get down to 53. Not to mention our schedule isn’t exactly loaded.

Again, I’m not talking about my predictions.  I’m talking about simply understanding how the outside might view us and getting that. 

only 5 teams had worse records than us last year.   We are coming off back to back 5 win seasons.  We added Sam Darnold to replace Teddy.  

what would make a random fan think we are going to be noteworthy better this year?  Every team added rookies they are high on helping them

I think we win between 7-9 games.  Which is close to where I think we could of got last year with a healthy CMC.  If CMC goes out this year? I’d bump us down to 4-5ish.  I like Chubba but a rookie Chubba probably isn’t going to be what Mike Davis was for us last year.   

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Who faked being a Panthers fan? I was up front from the beginning I was a fan of Cam. And didn’t even post about him during those 5 years. How do you root for a QB and not want his team to win. 
 

    I was told to be around for when the team proved last year they would have a winning season. So I stuck around. Still waiting. Anything else you want to make up?

Lol no one predicted a winning season last preseason.  I was called a homer by 90%of the board for predicting 5 wins and saying we had no chance at the number 1 pick.  

How many boards do you visit, I think you are getting them confused 

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, Mother Grabber said:

you’re the one complaining people don’t agree with you.

when you don’t agree with them, it’s you having your own, honest opinion. when they don’t agree with you, you complain that it’s an echo chamber.

make up your mind. can people have their own opinions or not?

 

No. That’s how you want to read it. As I’ve said, specifically, my fandom is not an opinion. It’s used to dismiss any statements. You want to tell me I’m wrong, just tell me why. Pretty simple. But that doesn’t happen. It’s always “but you a Steelers fan” so what you said doesn’t exist. Yet the problems I bring up remain. Bring up anything you want to. Let’s discuss. Just leave your PomPoms at the door. 

[iamhubby1]

6 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Not even close. It’s comical that my fandom is the only reason to disregard my comments. Not the issue, or content. I welcome any and all statements that can show any flaws or anything wrong with my comments. But going straight to my fandom just shows these posters can’t refute what I’m stating with any logic or facts.   
 

   Then complain daily that people actually give their honest opinions on a message board. Most of this board wants an echo chamber. There’s an entire group of posters that have been labeled as negative when in truth they have predicted nearly everything that’s happened over the last couple years. I’m willing to revisit any thread or topic for proof. 

 

Your pathological need for validation probably stems from your helicopter mother always telling you how spacial you are.

 

Now as a big boy, you seek validation on message boards. It is sad really. The good news? Well, just know you are not alone. There are people who can help you. But you have to want to change.

[Mother Grabber]

5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

my fandom is not an opinion

lolz. ok...that tells me all I need to know. have fun with yourself.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Lol no one predicted a winning season last preseason.  I was called a homer by 90%of the board for predicting 5 wins and saying we had no chance at the number 1 pick.  

How many boards do you visit, I think you are getting them confused 

So all the Teddy threads, all the “winning culture” instead of not spending 80M for nothing threads?

  How did that work out? How many people did you call out in those? Or should I just post them. Funny how most of the same “negative” posters were on top of all this too. Imagine that. 

[jfra78]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

So all the Teddy threads, all the “winning culture” instead of not spending 80M for nothing threads?

  How did that work out? How many people did you call out in those? Or should I just post them. Funny how most of the same “negative” posters were on top of all this too. Imagine that. 

Post them

[Mother Grabber]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

So all the Teddy threads, all the “winning culture” instead of not spending 80M for nothing threads?

  How did that work out? How many people did you call out in those? Or should I just post them. Funny how most of the same “negative” posters were on top of all this too. Imagine that. 

the Teddy fans fell off the wagon really quickly when it became clear he wasn't able to win. If you watched the games, you would have seen that the team out performed their talent level and expectations.

you can also see how this organization is vastly different from those of the past by how quickly they cut bait with Teddy. he wasn't they guy, so they kicked him to the curb immediately. if Darnold struggles, he'll be out the door, too.

so yes they have created a winning culture. it's not about making people feel good, it's about step up or go somewhere else.

[Smittymoose]

2 hours ago, Toomers said:

And I thought I couldn’t possibly feel any better about my wager. Thanks for the help. 

lol at betting on a team win total over because you're a fan and then acting like you're an objective expert

[Toomers]

22 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Post them

Ok. Now that grandson’s tournament is over….

 

 

 

There’s a few to get you started. Plenty more. Seems the same people are correct about a lot of things. And the same optimists hardly ever are. Why is that?