Christensen ...

[hepcat]

Moton didn't play at all in his first season

[Varking]

4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

How is drafting a QB resolve the oline? 

 

fug, how can anybody be this stupid. 

Drafting Justin Herbert didn’t fix their oline. They are still a bad oline but their offense as a whole was much improved and scored 50 more points than the year before with a rookie QB. Now they can build around him. If the QB you believe in is there, you go get him. Then you can pair up a stud tackle the next year to protect him like Slater in this draft. 

[iamhubby1]

10 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

It's no different than giving up multi first round picks for a veteran qb. 

 

Not sure that is true. One is a draft pick, the other is a vet. Different apples.

[Basbear]

17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Based on recent Broncos QB drafting, them passing on a QB might be a strong predictor of success for that QB. Getting drafted by those guys has been a kiss of death.

They have missed and missed, still QB needed teams all passed on fields, along with the panthers. In a sense before the Dak contract, dallas should have had discussions about him as well. I mean paying a QB 40+ million per or locked in a rookie deal for 5 years around 7 per......I know jones for all his faults thought about it...

Fields looked like the best QB in whole draft one game then a UDFA in the next game against a weaker defensive. I HATE those types. If youre able to "fix" his bad games, like get him constantly great(like all players....) well that will make many teams look uber dumb....including the panthers. Going back to the draft thoughts, hell I was super glad we didnt draft Mac "______" Jones when I was shittin myself while the panthers were on the clock. I would have 100% picked Fields over Big Mac and thought there was a 50/50 chance panthers go Mac attack..... 

Edited August 9, 2021 by Basbear

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

I get it. You are willing to jettison a HOF QB. I would not make that call in regards to Rodgers. Not for Love anyway. You are not recouping that cost.

 

Just because you did something once. Does not mean you have to do it twice.

Father Time may jettison him from the ranks of elite QBs soon anyway. That's a big part of what the Packers were hedging against.

[CRA]

31 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

I think they are just high on Darnold and they aren't the only ones.  Kiper and the other analyst on draft day said Darnold would be #2 in the 2021 draft, even after knowing what happened in NY.   Believe it or not, some people think Darnold is better than Fields.  

Given that, if you could add any defensive player you wanted or Fields, the choice becomes easy, because you're covered at QB.

I think Darnold simply made sense given where the Panthers found themselves when they signed him. 

Who is higher on Darnold than Fields at this point that isn’t a Panther fan, Trojan fan, Sam’s momma, a clickbait talking head seeking attention.  

Kiper? Yeah, didn’t he promise to quit after Clausen predictably busted? 

NFL history says Fields has a better shot at being a franchise QB than Darnold.   First round draft picks have a higher success rate…..than QBs who have busted and stunk for years. 

 

 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

They have missed and missed, still QB needed teams all passed on fields, along with the panthers. In a sense before the Dak contract, dallas should have had discussions about him as well. I mean paying a QB 40+ million per or locked in a rookie deal for 5 years around 7 per......I know jones for all his faults thought about it...

Fields looked like the best QB in whole draft one game then a UDFA in the next game against a weaker defensive. I HATE those types. If youre able to "fix" his bad games, like get him constantly great(like all players....) well that will make many teams look uber dumb....including the panthers. Going back to the draft thoughts, hell I super glad we didnt draft Mac "______" Jones when I was shittin myself while the panther were on the clock. I would have 100% picked Fields over Big Mac and thought there was a 50/50 chance panthers were go Mac attack..... 

Fields only had bad games when dealing with busted ribs (after out playing Trevor a second time) and when Ohio St was ravaged with COVID for over a month.   
 

[SBBlue]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Taking a look isn't an actual suitor. Putting an actual actionable offer on the table is a suitor. I haven't seen any indication that the Jets received any actual offer other than ours.

Everyone had a look.  We all saw him play. 
They were doing more than that. 
They were showing interest.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Don't get me wrong, I hope Sam Darnold bucks trends and becomes a great QB for us. But odds are that we're gonna be QB shopping again next year and it's gonna be ugly around these parts of that's the case and Fields is looking promising in Chicago. I just hope Darnold does us a solid and either balls out or completely bombs and doesn't leave us hanging still wondering after one season. Purgatory is not where you want to be.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, SBBlue said:

Everyone had a look.  We all saw him play. 
They were doing more than that. 
They were showing interest.

 

I can show interest in a brand new Corvette. The salesman might be really excited. Meanwhile, I have no interest in actually buying it. You're either making an offer or you're not. 

[trueblade]

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Taking a look isn't an actual suitor. Putting an actual actionable offer on the table is a suitor. I haven't seen any indication that the Jets received any actual offer other than ours.

From the various accounts of the trade that have been shared on this site, the Jets were prepared to keep Darnold if they didn't get the offer they wanted.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, trueblade said:

From the various accounts of the trade that have been shared on this site, the Jets were prepared to keep Darnold if they didn't get the offer they wanted.

That's what you say when you're the seller. Let me tell you right now, no one actually believed that.

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Father Time may jettison him from the ranks of elite QBs soon anyway. That's a big part of what the Packers were hedging against.

 

You are guessing that he is close to done. You also have no idea what they were thinking. You are speculating, and trying to make it sound good.  The fact is, you are willing to bet that Rodgers is done. I'm not. 

 

Love was a waste of a pick. Rodgers is no where near done. And GB is a poorly run Org. That got lucky and had 2 HOF QBs. Speculation, with a couple of facts thrown in.

 

And what did they get for 30 years of HOF QB play? 2 SBs. Yeah, model team there.

 

Do you think Panther fans would stand for that? 30 years, and only 2 SBs. 

[ForJimmy]

44 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He wasn't "struggling" but he was years removed from MVP caliber play. Enter Jordan Love and *poof* Rodgers is the MVP again. The two things aren't unrelated.

It was also year two of a new system with a new coach. That’s usually when jumps happen. Had they got him a weapon with the Love pick who knows if they beat the Bucs in the NFC game. I just don’t think HoF QBs need a rookie to re-energize them. The whole Favre thing was a mess also and he jumped ship and led their rivals to the playoffs. Rodgers might be doing something similar next year.