Panthers waive David Moore (OL)

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

46 replies in 4 hours to the cutting of an UDFA during camp.

 

 

 

 

We're officially bored people.

It's either this or actually pay attention to Chuck. 

[1of10Charnatives]

38 minutes ago, MrBubba said:

One of those things you don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Could have been late to practices, or any number of things.  

Only had few practices in pads, he would have needed to look real bad to get cut already.  

I teach a new hire training class for my company. The company will hire almost anyone into the class, and the job it trains you for is worth six figures if done even reasonably well, but the pass rate for the class is about 25%. One of the things I tell every new class is that punctuality is extremely important so don't be late coming back from breaks or lunch or it could cost you your job, yet i wind up cutting people every single class for this exact reason.

It's amazing how many people will let themselves lose out on the best opportunity they've ever had because they can't do something simple like show up on time. If I had a shot at an NFL roster I would plan to be there one hour before whatever time I was required to show up, minimum.

[1of10Charnatives]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It's either this or actually pay attention to Chuck. 

I hate to be the heretic in the room, but there are actually things to do with your free time than peruse an NFL msg board.

I'm not saying they are great and wonderful life enriching things. I'm about to boot up Satisfactory as we speak.

But there are things.

Edited August 8, 2021 by 1of10Charnatives

[TheSpecialJuan]

Well I guess he sucked cok 

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

46 replies in 4 hours to the cutting of an UDFA during camp.

 

 

 

 

We're officially bored people.

This was a little bit of a different case because we have such a terrible situation on the OL and this was one of their supposed "key additions" to help possibly shore that up, despite being a UDFA. 

It is disappointing mainly because now we largely look like we will be starting mostly the same unit as last year, save for two lower end journeyman starters/higher quality journeyman backup offensive linemen that we seem to be starting. The depth guys don't exactly inspire thoughts of one of them winning a battle to start over Miller, Erving and Elflein. 

Certainly another hit to the hopes of the contingent of Daley/Brown/Moore/Christensen supporters that thought they would upgrade our OL. Seems like every day those guys just seem to solidify why they aren't the guy. I had lower hopes for that group of rookies and young guys than most but even I am pretty disappointed in the early showing. 

[SBBlue]

Could be any number of reasons.  Guard was crowded and we have other backups at center.  Someone else must have shown better or we're making room for someone else.   Is Greg Little making the team?    

72 Taylor Moton T
75 Cameron Erving T
60 Pat Elflein G
61 Matt Paradis C
70 Brady Christensen T
78 Trent Scott T
67 John Miller G
77 Deonte Brown G

65 Dennis Daley G/T
74 Greg Little T

66 Mike Horton G
71 Sam Tecklenburg G

62 Aaron Monteiro T
63 Matt Kaskey T
73 Martez Ivey T

Waived
68 David Moore G

 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Could be any number of reasons.  Guard was crowded and we have other backups at center.  Someone else must have shown better or we're making room for someone else.   Is Greg Little making the team?    

72 Taylor Moton T
75 Cameron Erving T
60 Pat Elflein G
61 Matt Paradis C
70 Brady Christensen T
78 Trent Scott T
67 John Miller G
77 Deonte Brown G

65 Dennis Daley G/T
74 Greg Little T

66 Mike Horton G
71 Sam Tecklenburg G

62 Aaron Monteiro T
63 Matt Kaskey T
73 Martez Ivey T

Waived
68 David Moore G

 

If he got booted before some of the guys on that list, it must have been pretty bad. He went before the obvious camp bodies. That's pretty rough.

[ThPantherFan]

5 hours ago, Zod said:

Prized UDFA acquisition didn't make it to the first preseason game. Another reminder to not pay too close attention to what Panthers media is hyping up. 

Now that's a surprise.  You know why?  I thought he was doing okay.

[Basbear]

31 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

46 replies in 4 hours to the cutting of an UDFA during camp.

 

 

 

 

We're officially bored people.

Like Fu said its a little different with Moore. They already had him the Senior bowl. He signed the highest signing bonus for any of the UDFAs, I think it was over 100k. He was the top pick form many of the die-hard roster nerds to make the 53. Panthers need OL. 

If Im on the huddle, Im getting my fix and bored....panther is it for me in the sports world after being a loyal NBA, MLB, nascar fan. 

Edited August 8, 2021 by Basbear

[iamhubby1]

3 hours ago, My Chuck Dont Matter said:

Exactly. There are hundred of games that show Cam Erving and Pat Elflein sucking in the NFL level. But they both will be starting week 1. Matt Rhule is a joke. People will realize that. 

 

The irony is strong in this one.

[SBBlue]

12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This was a little bit of a different case because we have such a terrible situation on the OL and this was one of their supposed "key additions" to help possibly shore that up, despite being a UDFA. 

It is disappointing mainly because now we largely look like we will be starting mostly the same unit as last year, save for two lower end journeyman starters/higher quality journeyman backup offensive linemen that we seem to be starting. The depth guys don't exactly inspire thoughts of one of them winning a battle to start over Miller, Erving and Elflein. 

Certainly another hit to the hopes of the contingent of Daley/Brown/Moore/Christensen supporters that thought they would upgrade our OL. Seems like every day those guys just seem to solidify why they aren't the guy. I had lower hopes for that group of rookies and young guys than most but even I am pretty disappointed in the early showing. 

I didn't think Moore would start day one, but I thought he had a future here.

Well, I'm not to big to admit when I was wrong.  I thought BC had a shot at LT, he's not even practicing there.  I thought the Erving and Elflein contracts were cheap for their positions, so they could be depth, but it looks like they always planned for them to be the starters.   We haven't played a preseason game yet, but crow is warming up on the stove.

 

It is just so hard for me to wrap my head around the Erving & Elflein contracts.   Both are injury riddled, below average lineman.   We signed them immediately at the start of FA when other options were available.  As depth, I could see it.    Erving played fewer snaps that Okung last year.  I just don't get what Fit and Rhule are thinking here. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

I didn't think Moore would start day one, but I thought he had a future here.

Well, I'm not to big to admit when I was wrong.  I thought BC had a shot at LT, he's not even practicing there.  I thought the Erving and Elflein contracts were cheap for their positions, so they could be depth, but it looks like they always planned for them to be the starters.   We haven't played a preseason game yet, but crow is warming up on the stove.

 

It is just so hard for me to wrap my head around the Erving & Elflein contracts.   Both are injury riddled, below average lineman.   We signed them immediately at the start of FA when other options were available.  As depth, I could see it.    Erving played fewer snaps that Okung last year.  I just don't get what Fit and Rhule are thinking here. 

I am not going to take any pleasure in the seemingly inevitable "I told you so's" for that OL group. That is honestly why I have been so massively down on the offseason we had. This was our opportunity to really improve that unit with another deep interior OL group and a deeper than normal OT group in the draft. Instead, we drafted a guy that they don't even seem to have a clear idea what to do with, a 6th rounder and a UDFA that has already been cut. And that isn't even mentioning those idiotic Erving and Elflein contracts. 

I was hesitant to call our OL offseason what I actually though but I am pretty close to it......a fuging disaster. I am just not going to be able to wrap my head around why you would take a bad offensive line from last year, arguably make it worse this season and then bring in a QB that was a huge bust, in no little part due to poor protection. 

Maybe this is just some 7D chess that I just can't understand.

Edited August 8, 2021 by kungfoodude

[OldhamA]

46 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Well I guess he sucked cok 

This is not a negative trait.

[iamhubby1]

23 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Could be any number of reasons.  Guard was crowded and we have other backups at center.  Someone else must have shown better or we're making room for someone else.   Is Greg Little making the team?    

72 Taylor Moton T
75 Cameron Erving T
60 Pat Elflein G
61 Matt Paradis C
70 Brady Christensen T
78 Trent Scott T
67 John Miller G
77 Deonte Brown G

65 Dennis Daley G/T
74 Greg Little T

66 Mike Horton G
71 Sam Tecklenburg G

62 Aaron Monteiro T
63 Matt Kaskey T
73 Martez Ivey T

Waived
68 David Moore G

 

 

IMO, with all they put in with him, and how much they wanted him. There are only two reasons he is gone. 1. He didn't get it. 2. He doesn't have it.

 

Everyone has a limit on their competence. Maybe he hit his in College? Not the first kid to look good in College, and not so well in the NFL.

 

All that said. We may never know the reason he was cut.