“I hate saying it. But the Panthers played with 10 guys on D last year”

[CRA]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We actually saw everything that was on the board.

So tell us what was all written down on the board that they edited out…where Voth came in to declare it didn’t say Fields.  But didn’t say what was written. 

point isn’t about if it said Fields or not.  Point is merely they only tell you and show you what they want. 

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On 8/1/2021 at 6:26 AM, ncfan said:

How the heck did this get off the rails this fast?

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On 8/1/2021 at 7:34 AM, OldhamA said:

The problem hasn't been spending first round picks on fantastic players like Morgan, Beason, Davis and Kuechly. 

The problem has been spending 2-7 round picks on trash that I don't have to list because we all know the names. 

We're a losing franchise because we've consistently drafted poorly, particularly after the first round pick. 

Yessir! Let's just hope that the new regime changes this.

So far from last year YGM, Chinn and Roy are looking solid. Pride may prove a decent back-up, at least. And I'm even more excited about this year's draftees. We're looking at 3-4 guys that could end up making a significant impact, other that Horn.

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On 8/1/2021 at 8:21 AM, Floppin said:

Oh man, training camp always brings out the new idiot members that are going to vie for the crown of most esteemed moron for the season. Always a treat. Every season it's a brand new bunch. Last year's crowd was pretty disappointing so I'm hoping this bunch is more entertaining. 

Same bunch of idiots, new profiles.

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, CRA said:

So tell us what was all written down on the board that they edited out…where Voth came in to declare it didn’t say Fields.  But didn’t say what was written. 

point isn’t about if it said Fields or not.  Point is merely they only tell you and show you what they want. 

They didn't edit it.

We had that discussion back when Panthers confidential came out. The dumbass conspiracy theories were debunked back then, but granted there are still a few idiots that want to buy in.

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On 8/1/2021 at 9:43 AM, Mr. Scot said:

At the beginning of Panthers Confidential, you see inside the Panther Draft Room when they're informed of the Lions picking (Penei Sewell).

Scott Fitterer says to Matt Rhule, "So what's gonna happen is Sewell's gonna go, we'll be staring at Horn, and then it's gonna be what's worth us moving off of Horn." 

Later, right around five minutes in, the film rewinds to the day before the draft and you see the meeting where Matt Rhule lists "the cluster of guys we really love" in order with Scott Fitterer, Samir Suleman and David Tepper. 

They are...

- Penei Sewell
- Jaycee Horn
- Patrick Surtain
- Jaylen Waddle
- Devonta Smith

And finally, a little after that comes the part where they actually draft Jaycee Horn, which would strongly suggest he was the guy they wanted (and in fact they say so afterward). 

So ya know,  there's that

Trolls no like facts!

[CRA]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They didn't edit it.

We had that discussion back when Panthers confidential came out. The dumbass conspiracy theories were debunked back then, but granted there are still a few idiots that want to buy in.

Bill Voth literally came on here and addressed it.  They didn’t show us the board at the end and all that was written on it (your declaration)….nor did they include all the talk. They just cut to the conclusion and never showed the full board. 

Voth came on here and said it wasn’t Fields we thought we saw.  He wouldn’t say what it actually said though above it or what it was. 

They opted not to include that info.   Because the Panthers now and before and all other teams….only tell you what they choose to. 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Bill Voth literally came on here and addressed it.  They didn’t show us the board at the end and all that was written on it (your declaration)….nor what all was said.  They just cut to the conclusion and never showed the full board. 

Voth came on here and said it wasn’t Fields.  He wouldn’t say what it said.  They opted not to include that info.   Because the Panthers now and before and all other teams….only tell you what they choose to. 

Some people act like they are paid by the team to be an official mouthpiece for the front office. We are having continued on and off discussions about the new strict photography and general media policy of the team but some folks actually believe the Panthers will show the whole world their unaltered draft board. It's amusing.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bill Voth literally came on here and addressed it.  They didn’t show us the board at the end and all that was written on it (your declaration)….nor did they include all the talk. They just cut to the conclusion and never showed the full board. 

Voth came on here and said it wasn’t Fields we thought we saw.  He wouldn’t say what it actually said though above it or what it was. 

They opted not to include that info.   Because the Panthers now and before and all other teams….only tell you what they choose to. 

Voth never came on the board. He put it on Twitter.

And yes, you can see all the names for a brief moment. They were blurred because the camera cuts away, not because they were edited.

The first group was listed off by Rhule. The second group was trade down targets.

Now of course, you're free to believe whatever stupid sh-t you desire to fit your narrative, but it's not based in fact.

[CRA]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

And yes, you can see all the names for a brief moment. They were blurred because the camera cuts away, not because they were edited.

The first group was listed off by Rhule. The second group was trade down targets.

Now of course, you're free to believe whatever stupid sh-t you desire to fit your narrative, but it's not based in fact.

Okay,  it’s was Twitter.  That’s not the point.  He was addressing the the online talk that likely started here. 

Cool.  What where all the names on the board? Did Tepper call you and tell you they were trade down options? Or are you just guessing/assuming.  Because you don’t like that.  None of that was said in the video. 

But again, the point isn’t what names were up on the board…..it is just that the Panthers nor any team actually tells you everything.  Because it is never how they sell it to you in the end.  

But yeah, the draft video showed everyone agrees on everything.  Everyone happy.   Everything went exactly how they planned from the jump.  

[SBBlue]

Hi guys.  Bill Voth here.  Yeah, it's what Mr. Scott said.  I don't hang out here.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, SBBlue said:

Hi guys.  Bill Voth here.  Yeah, it's what Mr. Scott said.  I don't hang out here.

Howdy Bill, Scott Fowler here

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Cool.  What where all the names on the board? Did Tepper call you and tell you they were trade downs options? Or are you just guessing/assuming.  None of that was said in the video. 

But again, the point isn’t what names were up on the board…..it is just that the Panthers nor any team actually tells you everything.  Because it is never how they sell it to you in the end.  

But yeah, the draft video showed everyone agrees on everything.  Everyone happy.   Everything went exactly how they planned from the jump.  

Well, since you said Tepper was sitting next to you, shouldn't you already know if he called me?

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well, since you said Tepper was sitting next to you, shouldn't you already know if he called me?

I missed the part where you listed the names on the board.  Or where it was said the unknown names were trade downs. 

but as I said, the names aren’t the point.  

NFL teams have never been open and honest about what goes on behind the scenes.  Not claiming they should.  It would make no sense to be with fans.  We are the people they are trying to sell.