OL is "fluid"

[AndrewLaskoski]

Please let Christensen be better than a JAG. Them valuing him over Marshall gives me some hope 

[bababoey]

Sometimes it's not fluid, it's just fat.  Speaking from experience.

[Khaki Lackey]

2 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

If the OL is fluid, that would be an improvement over the last couple of years where they offered about as much resistance as a gas. 

Yeah, but when you think it's gas but it's actually fluid...things can get REALLY bad.

[SBBlue]

1 hour ago, AndrewLaskoski said:

Please let Christensen be better than a JAG. Them valuing him over Marshall gives me some hope 

I know right.

Its clear Christensen was the target all along.  

Rhule in Panthers Confidential said: "they say hey we're gonna do the trade with you and all three guys on the board we take Christensen take the best receiver.  If they're not sure take our highest-ranked guy Terrace."  They couldn't lock it in and we took Marshal.

Only one OT was taken between Terrace and BC, that was Mayfield....and we panicked.  I guess because he was our backup if BC got taken.  When our plan B disappeared, we traded up to get BC.

What I don't understand is, they are looking at BC for RT when he played left tackle and we needed a left tackle.  They knew his wingspan was short when they drafted him.

They either

1)Think Erving, Scott, and Daley, will do fine at LT...and there's limited data to support that.

2)Think Moton may actually move left eventually with BC right.

3)Weren't communicating with someone like Pat Meyer who came back and said, "hey, he can't play left tackle, his arms are too short."

My guess is it's a combination of 1&2.

In any event, as a rookie, we need to ease him in, and playing behind our best OT  should be good for his development.

 

 

[ForJimmy]

It’s fluid with a couple leaks….

[LinvilleGorge]

I think Christensen will be a good player, I'm just not sure where. Rhule has said repeatedly that he thinks he's a RT. We just signed Moton long-term to huge money. The tea leaves IMO point toward trying to convince Moton to move to LT and plugging Christensen in at RT. It's a lot easier to find serviceable interior OL than it is to find serviceable OTs. If we could solve both OT positions long-term with a rookie draft pick and a vet with a long-term contract that would go a loooooooong ways toward solving our OL problems.

[Riverboat Ron]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Is diarrhea considered a fluid?

[SBBlue]

3 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Some key FA are still available….

No.  Just no.  

Besides, we're stocked at guard.  They have even mentioned BC as a 2nd round guard.

On the PNP podcast Coltrain said "the whole damn line is guards"  to which Rashad  responded  "it guardians of the gd galaxy".

 

[markbm62]

9 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

Is diarrhea considered a fluid?

At times it can be somewhat chunky, that’s when you get those nasty splatters.

[markbm62]

Did I do that right 

[SBBlue]

26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Christensen will be a good player, I'm just not sure where. Rhule has said repeatedly that he thinks he's a RT. We just signed Moton long-term to huge money. The tea leaves IMO point toward trying to convince Moton to move to LT and plugging Christensen in at RT. It's a lot easier to find serviceable interior OL than it is to find serviceable OTs. If we could solve both OT positions long-term with a rookie draft pick and a vet with a long-term contract that would go a loooooooong ways toward solving our OL problems.

The big "if" is, can they both switch sides?  Moving to the pros is hard enough, then on top of it to switch sides.  Moton has handled LT before.  But he'll be uncomfortable too.  Why not just ease BC in behind Erving?

 I just don't understand that RT can have shorter arms.  I've never heard that.  We've discussed it here before...but I'm unconvinced.  It just makes no sense to me.  The one study I could find showed that shorter arms had no correlation with effectiveness, instead the study showed the opposite.  I couldn't find anything on RT vs LT arm length.   I guess they know something the rest of us don't. 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by SBBlue

[mccjeff]

27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Christensen will be a good player, I'm just not sure where. Rhule has said repeatedly that he thinks he's a RT. We just signed Moton long-term to huge money. The tea leaves IMO point toward trying to convince Moton to move to LT and plugging Christensen in at RT. It's a lot easier to find serviceable interior OL than it is to find serviceable OTs. If we could solve both OT positions long-term with a rookie draft pick and a vet with a long-term contract that would go a loooooooong ways toward solving our OL problems.

Has Rhule actually done that? Or did he say it once and it has been repeated endlessly here as if it were gospel? But I agree that if we have long term answers at OT in Moton and BC, regardless of L vs R, then we are way ahead.

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

 I just don't understand that RT can have shorter arms.  I've never heard that.  We've discussed it here before...but I'm unconvinced.  It just makes no sense to me.

Some of it is somewhat outdated positional prototypes. The LE playing over the RT was usually more a power rusher/run stopper type where as the RE was the speed rusher pass specialist to attack the QB from the blind side. As the NFL has become more and more pass happy, they're all pass rushers now. If you're playing on the edge in today's NFL, you HAVE to be able to effect the QB. You're practically useless if you can't. Also, somewhat of an outdated norm is that the TE typically lined up off the RT, so he had help to deal with speed off the edge so arm length was less of a necessity for RTs. The TE is basically a move position in today's NFL as likely to be split out wide, lining up on the left, or lining up in the backfield as he is to be off the RT. There really isn't much of a "strong" side anymore in today's spread formations. The priority on LT in today's NFL really just boils down to that's a right handed QB's blindside. He can simply see pressure coming from his right side better, so put your best pass protector at LT.

[Moo Daeng]

Obviously given the situation and date