King of Wisconsin… Giannis or Rodgers?

[SizzleBuzz]

7 hours ago, toldozer said:

Take one player off that team and the bucks are ass. Hornets roster last year was more talented if Giannis got hurt.  

Complete BS.

They closed out ATL in the Eastern Conference Finals with the big boy on the bench..

The only Bobcats player who might crack the starting lineup in Milwaukee is Ball...nobody else would ever make it off the bench.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Complete BS.

They closed out ATL in the Eastern Conference Finals with the big boy on the bench..

The only Bobcats player who might crack the starting lineup in Milwaukee is Ball...nobody else would ever make it off the bench.

Ball, Hayward, and Rozier. You can pretty much can replace anyone but Giannis and Middleton (maybe Jrue). They closed out an ATL team with an injured Trae Young… 

[SizzleBuzz]

10 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Ball, Hayward, and Rozier.

Possibly Ball...no chance on the other 2. 

14 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You can pretty much can replace anyone but Giannis and Middleton (maybe Jrue).

Not with anyone playing for the Bobcats.

14 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

They closed out an ATL team with an injured Trae Young… 

He played over 35 minutes...no excuses.

Focus here Jimmy --- winning starts within the Office of the Owner...

  ...there is zero chance Mike Jordan will ever be able to manage the business to consistently compete with Wes Edens and Marc Lasry over time --- Mike simply is not qualified.

 

[ForJimmy]

23 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Possibly Ball...no chance on the other 2. 

Not with anyone playing for the Bobcats.

He played over 35 minutes...no excuses.

Focus here Jimmy --- winning starts within the Office of the Owner...

  ...there is zero chance Mike Jordan will ever be able to manage the business to consistently compete with Wes Edens and Marc Lasry over time --- Mike simply is not qualified.

 

There is a reason Trae was 4-17 and 0-6 from 3 that game. He also missed the previous 2 games because of that injury.
The best lineup is Ball, Rozier, Hayward, Middleton, and Giannis. I would think any rational Bucks fan would take that in a heartbeat.

 

The NBA doesn’t really work that way. Do you think the Lakers won last year because of the team’s owner? It’s a player’s league and they jump around to form super teams. Lebron went down to Miami won a couple, back to Cleveland won another, and then to LA and won another. The Bucks are the exception to the rule because they have one insanely good player and played a injured Nets team then got matched up against a Suns team that go there beating a Lakers team without AD, Nuggets team without Murray, and Clippers team without Leonard. Jordan is far from a good owner, but it’s going to be tough to build a team in small market Charlotte. Look at how the Spurs have struggled since their stars retired… 

[Wolfcop]

Packers are king there, just like the NFL is king most places in the country. I am happy for Giannis, but the NBA doesn't touch NFL football. 

[toldozer]

2 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Complete BS.

They closed out ATL in the Eastern Conference Finals with the big boy on the bench..

The only Bobcats player who might crack the starting lineup in Milwaukee is Ball...nobody else would ever make it off the bench.

Yeah man because Atlanta owned us this year. Man you're a donkey,  we were in 4th and better than Atlanta until people started getting hurt. Milwaukee is not run well and people were talking about firing their coach in the nets series.  Giannis is that entire team.  Swap him for pj Washington and the Hornets are in the finals too 

[jfra78]

3 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Complete BS.

They closed out ATL in the Eastern Conference Finals with the big boy on the bench..

The only Bobcats player who might crack the starting lineup in Milwaukee is Ball...nobody else would ever make it off the bench.

Its Hornets not Bobcats

[SizzleBuzz]

26 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Milwaukee is not run well

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

The NBA doesn’t really work that way.

Apparently it does...the Milwaukee Bucks are World Champions.

 

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Do you think the Lakers won last year because of the team’s owner?

Actually I think they won in spite of current ownership.

What I know for a fact is under the leadership of Dr. Jerry Buss the team made the playoffs 32-of-34 years...

...upon his death ownership was ceded to his inept children and they immediately missed the playoffs 6 straight seasons. 

NOTE:  The current Bobcats GM was the Lakers GM in that time period.

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Apparently it does...the Milwaukee Bucks are World Champions.

 

Actually I think they won in spite of current ownership.

What I know for a fact is under the leadership of Dr. Jerry Buss the team made the playoffs 32-of-34 years...

...upon his death ownership was ceded to his inept children and they immediately missed the playoffs 6 straight seasons. 

NOTE:  The current Bobcats GM was the Lakers GM in that time period.

They (LA) won in spite of ownership. There you have it. It starts with the owners right? Also how did Cleveland win with Lebron? Was it the owner? How have they been since he left? It’s the same owner. The players control this league like it or not. Had Giannis chosen to leave Milwaukee they would never had won. The man is a beast and had 50 of their 105 points that last game. I was glad to see him do it the hard way.

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

The Bucks are the exception to the rule...

Actually they are the embodiment of "The Rule".

The Rule:  Teams with lousy ownership never thrive.

Golden State Warriors:  Laughingstock of NBA, make playoffs 5 times in 33 years > NEW OWNER in 2010 > 5-Finals and 3 World Championships since.

LA Lakers:  Under leadership of Dr. Jerry Buss made the playoffs 32-of-34 years > NEW OWNER in 2013 > miss playoffs 6 straight seasons.

NY Knicks:  Make the playoffs 14 straight seasons > NEW OWNER in 1999 > miss playoffs 13 of 16 seasons. [Note: Dolan and Jordan are in class of their own, completely inept.]

Milwaukee Bucks:  Six 1st-round playoff exits in 15 seasons > NEW OWNERS in 2014 > 5-straight playoffs appearances, 7-4 playoffs series winning record, 2021 World Champions.

I could go on but think the point has been made...

...but just in case you missed it...

...the Charlotte Bobcats will never have meaningful success until there is a change in ownership.

The good news is a couple of smart guys from New York are now "partners" with MJ and I have a hunch that at some point they will (a)  either convince him to go away and let them manage the shared asset, or (b) straightway wrest control from him. 

Will be interesting to watch...

[SizzleBuzz]

26 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It starts with the owners right?

In a place like Charlotte, yes 110%.

Ditto Milwaukee, etc...

The "super team" strategy is legit (to the detriment of the NBA) but it's by no means the only path to a championship.

In markets like ours (or Milwaukee) there is no path to a championship in the absence of superior ownership -- and Jordan ain't that...in fact, he's the opposite. 

Edited July 25, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[SizzleBuzz]

27 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Had Giannis chosen to leave Milwaukee they would never had won.

Ya think maybe those brilliant owners had something to do with convincing him to stick around? 

[ForJimmy]

Just now, SizzleBuzz said:

In a place like Charlotte, yes 110%.

Ditto Milwaukee, etc...

The "super team" strategy is legit (to the detriment of the NBA) but it's by no means the only path to a championship.

In markets like ours (or Milwaukee) there is no path to a championship in the absence of superior ownership -- and Jordan ain't that, in fact he's the opposite. 

So the backpedaling is starting! Got it. We can even look at Toronto constantly getting knocked out of the playoffs early, Leonard joins them and wins a championship. Leonard leaves and Toronto is back at being bounced early. The players control the league. Durant left the Warriors and they miss the playoffs, he joined the Nets and they are an instant contender. You referenced the 90s and early 2000s teams to counter this, but that was before the players took over. Lebron changed the whole NBA in that sense. As for the Bucks, they are Giannis’s team. They rise and fall with him. If he chooses to leave they will look like the Cavs when Lebron left. I know you hate player control, but that’s the NBA now.