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Mr. Scot

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Jonathan Jones is reporting that the Bears badly want to trade up from pick 20 for a quarterback.

Gotta figure that's not gonna be easy unless they're offering a kings ransom.

If they want to give us a future 1st, then I'm all ears.

Otherwise, hell no.  

EDIT - Actually, nah.  Not even a future 1st, considering the Bears could definitely make the playoffs.  Not sure a 20th overall pick this year and another 20s pick next year would be worth giving up the 8th overall pick.

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Just now, Mage said:

If they want to give us a future 1st, then I'm all ears.

Otherwise, hell no.  

I’d be very hesitant to do it for just 1 future 1st mainly since we only have 16 players graded as 1st rounders. 

If you’re only giving me 1 1st rounder then there better a couple 2’s in there at least and +

Thats a big drop

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Lots of info from Jonathan Jones (including some Panthers stuff)

2021 Draft Notes

I've been bracing for a Justin Fields fall in this year's draft, but I've come to believe that he won't get past pick No. 9 later tonight. If Fields is available after the Bengals pick at No. 5, I think the Bears or Patriots could move up to get him.

Fields is still in play for Atlanta at No. 4, however, I'm placing my marker on Kyle Pitts there. First-year GM Terry Fontenot said Wednesday he's had calls with all NFL GMs on trade-back options and will be comfortable pulling the trigger if need be.

The tide has been shifting in favor of Ja'Marr Chase to Cincinnati. I firmly believe their best option is Penei Sewell, but sources are leaning Chase to Cincy.

So what does Miami do? The Dolphins are throwing up signals that they want to trade back yet again.

The Panthers very clearly want to trade back, and I think they'd make a deal with the Patriots at 15 to still get a player with a first-round grade. I won't rule them out on taking Fields at No. 8, but I think if they stay there, the pick could very well be South Carolina CB Jaycee Horn. Carolina values his athleticism and press-coverage skills above Patrick Surtain II, who's seen as less of an athletic marvel but a safer pick.

One personnel executive predicted Carolina's trade-down partner could be Philadelphia.

The Cowboys could go with Surtain or Rashawn Slater. Corner seems like the obvious move, but the Dallas offensive line has gotten old in a hurry.

The Giants have been difficult to nail down. One source believes their safe pick would be Kwity Paye.

The Chargers and Vikings could take offensive linemen in consecutive picks. If Christian Darrisaw doesn't go to Los Angeles, I'd expect him to go to Minnesota. The Vikings are weighing Jaelan Phillips there, too.

Speaking of the Vikings, GM Rick Spielman is known to covet a second-round pick. After 14, the Vikes don't pick again until 78. But they do have two third-round picks and three fourth-round picks. I'd expect Minnesota to deal some of those to move up into the second round on Day Two.

Despite taking Isaiah Simmons last year, the Cardinals are interested in Zaven Collins. Arizona is still figuring out what position to play Simmons. The Cardinals were once in play for a trade-up to No. 7, but that seems to have faded.

I think Washington stays put and takes an offensive tackle - if a top one falls - or linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.

New Orleans may have to trade up into the teens if it wants to get CB Caleb Farley, who multiple teams view as the best corner in the draft if not for his back injury.

No one believes the Ravens will stay and pick at No. 31.

It only takes one team to make me look like a fool, so I don't say this with the most conviction: I will not at all be surprised if Gregory Rousseau and Christian Barmore don't go in the first round.

I do not believe a sixth quarterback will be drafted in the first round. No one is that desperate.

UNC running back Javonte Williams could surprise some as the second RB off the board tonight or Day Two.

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5 minutes ago, Mage said:

If they want to give us a future 1st, then I'm all ears.

Otherwise, hell no.  

EDIT - Actually, nah.  Not even a future 1st, considering the Bears could definitely make the playoffs.  Not sure a 20th overall pick this year and another 20s pick next year would be worth giving up the 8th overall pick.

It would take a lot more than a first for me to move back 12 spots and miss out on all the guys the team considers the best prospects.

 

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

The last point is big. They never made a FA splash like this year. Belicheck also hadn’t had a year without Brady in 20 years until this past season. Moving up to the top 10 when you are locked in at QB doesn’t make much sense. They aren’t locked in at QB now.

I think the most important thing to consider regarding the Fields/Pats rumors in recent days is when was the last time a Belichick move/draft pick was telegraphed? I'm gonna go ahead and say NEVER. If Belichick really wanted Fields this badly and was willing to pay a ton to move up and get him, does anyone really believe he'd telegraph it like this and it would be the main thing the media is reporting on for the Pats in the days leading up to the draft? I highly doubt that.

 

Yes, we've seen crazier things but even with Belichick going out of character with the aggressive FA, nobody saw any of those signings coming until they happened. I'd be shocked if the Pats trade up for Fields. I think it's more likely they really want Lance or some other non-QB and the Fields stuff is just a part of them leaking stuff to help the chances of their guy slipping. We'll find out soon enough

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1 hour ago, Mage said:

If they want to give us a future 1st, then I'm all ears.

Otherwise, hell no.  

EDIT - Actually, nah.  Not even a future 1st, considering the Bears could definitely make the playoffs.  Not sure a 20th overall pick this year and another 20s pick next year would be worth giving up the 8th overall pick.

I agree unless we do something similar to what the Dolphins did. Move down to 20 get maybe 3 or 4 picks then ship one or two of those out to move back up 4 or 5 spots.

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