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Albert Breer also has us taking Fields, believes Tepper is pushing for it.

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Or he could be putting that out there to have people thinking we're taking a QB so that we get a trade down partner or have someone jump in front of us so that even more QBs are off the board for us to get that T. I find it sus af...this staff has been smarter than that...if we really wanted a specific player I doubt we'd have it out there like this and we could have used those darnold picks(+ more obv) to move up in the draft to make sure we got the specific player we wanted.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

When? Honestly, we've been amateur hour when it comes to a lot of stuff.

"I can't wait to coach Cam"

"Teddy Bridgewater is a franchise QB"

Then we publicly trashed Teddy to the point where we HAD to go a different direction.

Na those first two even prove my point lol. They aren't tipping what they are doing. OFC they'd say TB is a franchise QB if they want someone else to pick him up in a trade how is that hard to understand.

They were trying to trade Cam too and instead of saying "na we'll cut Cam" they said that instead...once again not hard to understand.

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2 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

With all the Ohio state qb bust I don’t want him. Also lots of red flags for fields.

Yeah the Chargers should have passed on Herbert with all the Oregon busts (Marietta, Harrington) and the Bengals on Burrow with the LSU busts (Russell and Flynn). Texas Tech QBs were just system QBs until Mahomes...

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3 minutes ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

Probably because at that time the other option was Jimmy pickles. It's no execuse. The circumstances are different. We're bringing in a guy with potential, but no proven track record. To be honest, we should have considered drafting a QB as soon as Cams shoulder was destroyed as a contingency. We could've done so with plenty of guys. But our FO decided to wait or draft a LATE round flyer. 

Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe

Aaron Rodgers and Brett Fabre

Steve Young and Joe Montana.

I could list examples all day with teams taking this approach. And they've been far more successful than the Teams that took the Trent Dilter route. And let's keep in mind all the guys you point too are from a different era when defenses weren't hamstrung by the rule book. Shoring up the QB position in this day and age of the NFL is by far the single most important piece off the franchise. To remain perennial contenders anyway. Sure we could draft a tackle and I'd be ecstatic, but then the Darnold could darnold and we're back at square one.

 

But go ahead. Go off.

 

Bringing in a guy when they knew Cam would not be the same would have made sense. Too bad they didn't. 

Brady was a late round flyer.

Favre was an established vet starting the slide to the downside of his career with a good team around him. The Packers were in a position to be able to take a young QB and let him sit and learn. Same for Montana and Young. The Colts did the same with Manning and Luck. The current Panthers are not even in the ballpark that those teams were.

Once again, Cam Newton franchise QB equaled 3 winning seasons with the current rules. It takes a lot more than a QB to be a perennial contender. A young QB needs weapons, coaching, and protection. The Panthers failed to give Cam that repeatedly. The current contending and superbowl teams had good teams built and then got their QB. The Panthers should follow the examples of those winning teams.

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2 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Na those first two even prove my point lol. They aren't tipping what they are doing. OFC they'd say TB is a franchise QB if they want someone else to pick him up in a trade how is that hard to understand.

They were trying to trade Cam too and instead of saying "na we'll cut Cam" they said that instead...once again not hard to understand.

Yeah, I can advertise oceanfront property in Colorado too. That doesn't make me savvy.

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9 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

With all the Ohio state qb bust I don’t want him. Also lots of red flags for fields.

Fields didn't play for Urban Meyers.  Those were Urban Meyer QBs that busted...and consistently did it coming out of FL and OSU.  Fields is a Day QB. 

 

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I can advertise oceanfront property in Colorado too. That doesn't make me savvy.

na it don't nor does any of those previous two posts.

They just resold a pinto though so they rolling with more savvy points atm.

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

Fields didn't play for Urban Meyers.  Those were Urban Meyer QBs that busted...and consistently did it coming out of FL and OSU.  Fields is a Day QB. 

 

It makes his hire in Jacksonville very questionable IMO. Forget the migraine issues that led to his OSU retirement. The guy has a long list of NFL QB failures and you're hiring him to develop the NFL career of the most anticipated QB prospect since Andrew Luck? Okay...

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15 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

At the end of the day all you are doing is playing the  odds.  

Are you willing to take a chance with a 30% QB to take a 90% LT or would you prefer to take a 60% QB to compete with your 30% QB, and yes I made all of those percentages up, but really that is all the teams are doing.  The payout for being right about a QB is exponentially higher than that of any other position.  

Evaluating players is nothing but trying to figure their chances of success.

There is a very good chance the team might be willing to take OT1 over QB3, but maybe they would take QB3 over OT2.  

 

I'd take the 90% LT so he could protect the 30% QB and whoever takes over for the QB if he fails.

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

When? Honestly, we've been amateur hour when it comes to a lot of stuff.

"I can't wait to coach Cam"

"Teddy Bridgewater is a franchise QB"

Then we publicly trashed Teddy to the point where we HAD to go a different direction.

Yep. The current FO has some work to do before they look competent when it comes to QBs.

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