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Hopium - We might have a shot at Sewell


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It's a shytty dilemma for us.  Do we wait the Watson legal issues out, even if it means getting him next year.  Do we forego Watson and take one of the QBs available if they happen to fall to 8.  

I think Tepper wants Watson and will wait this issue out. That said I think we'll build the best team we can around whatever QB we put on the field, even if it means Teddy B again.

If Slater or Sewell is  there at 8 I think we can take him.  However, trading down might not be a bad idea either.  

I just hope the draft gets here soon before half this forum has an aneurism. 

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I dream of the day when I hear the announcers say: “Carolina has one of the best offensive lines in the league.”

if a top LT is there, we need to take him.  Then draft a G or CB in round two.  Trade for Darnold or Minshew and have open competition in camp at QB.  Maybe even draft a QB in rounds 3-5 and let them join the fray.  

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4 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

you can find plenty of examples of game manager QB teams who did well, and even won the Super Bowl. We saw with Cam that even one hole in the OL can neutralize a great QB.

Heck we saw it with Mahomes this year.  Mike Remmers killed two teams chances at Super Bowls.  A great OL can make an average QB look good.  A bad OL can make an all pro look like crap.  

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Just by sitting calmly and letting the nervous and desperate shake things out ahead of us, we will come out with the best of the bunch. 

It's #8, not #29. 

CMC came to us at #8 (and y'all laughed when I said that would be our pick) and Luke came to us at #9 (and people went, why? who?). Jordan Gross was our #8 pick, as was Biakabutuka (well, he could have been great). And we grabbed Derrick Brown last year at #7.

It's a good place to be in the draft, act like it.

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7 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

we could really shore up our OL in a hurry this draft, if we forego the QB for another season. if we do, and have another good all around draft, we could be looking at legit being a QB away from deep runs. then, we can consider trading a ton of future picks for the final piece.

That’s where I’m at. OL galore. Just draft them all and let’s check off that huge box.

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1 hour ago, Smithers said:

Heck we saw it with Mahomes this year.  Mike Remmers killed two teams chances at Super Bowls.  A great OL can make an average QB look good.  A bad OL can make an all pro look like crap.  

Eric Fisher got abused by the Bucs in the first game! He wasn't the magic elixir that was going to help them win against that outstanding defense. Remmers didn't play well, but the Bucs made a lot of good tackles look pretty bad. 

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