Don"t Expect Carolina to Trade Up for a QB.

[TLGPanthersFan]

2 hours ago, Asurfaholic said:

Didn’t your parents teach you that you will never be at the last best deal? This isn’t the end of ever finding a decent QB. The offseason isn’t near over, and some of us appreciate that the brass isn’t overpaying for a chance at something that could just as easily be as bad or worse than our current QB.

 

I like this take- I’d rather us use that top 10 pick on whatever stud is available and build the team smart. 

Boring. 

[Sgt Schultz]

3 hours ago, Icege said:

Good.

The team "retooled" last year instead of flat out rebuilding, which ultimately set us back a year imo (especially when taking into consideration the limitations that were in place due to the pandemic). I can't tell if the idea that the team is a QB away from success is optimistic thinking or ignorance on display.

If there are 4 - 5 QBs taken before the Panthers pick, that means the team gets a shot at a top LT, TE, or CB and another starter in the 2nd. I'm very happy with being able to come away with a QB, Penei Sewell, Rashawn Slater, Kyle Pitts, Patrick Surtain II, or Caleb Farley.

There's a lot of really, really talented prospects in rounds 2 + 3, with round 4 being an opportunity to get somebody that slid. I wouldn't mind seeing Fitterer jump back into the first with our 2nd round pick to lock down another bonus year for a rookie contract, but I would really like to see if he can trade back at all and pick up an extra day 2 pick.

But, but, but all nine of those guys (the 4 QBs and the 5 guys you mention) will be gone by the time we pick at #8.  Plus a few others, too.

[KillerKat]

Tepper also shouldn't expect everyone to watch this team with Teddy at QB.

[Basbear]

4 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

I notice everyone throwing tantrums but I'm pretty happy we haven't yet thrown 3 fuging firsts to acquire one.

 

4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Preach brother.   Stay at 8 and let the draft come to you.  

 

3 hours ago, Icege said:

Good.

The team "retooled" last year instead of flat out rebuilding, which ultimately set us back a year imo (especially when taking into consideration the limitations that were in place due to the pandemic). I can't tell if the idea that the team is a QB away from success is optimistic thinking or ignorance on display.

If there are 4 - 5 QBs taken before the Panthers pick, that means the team gets a shot at a top LT, TE, or CB and another starter in the 2nd. I'm very happy with being able to come away with a QB, Penei Sewell, Rashawn Slater, Kyle Pitts, Patrick Surtain II, or Caleb Farley.

There's a lot of really, really talented prospects in rounds 2 + 3, with round 4 being an opportunity to get somebody that slid. I wouldn't mind seeing Fitterer jump back into the first with our 2nd round pick to lock down another bonus year for a rookie contract, but I would really like to see if he can trade back at all and pick up an extra day 2 pick.

Soooooooo refreshing seeing huddlers use their brains for a change, almost brings a tear to my eye.....

[Shocker]

3 hours ago, frankw said:

Anyone out there who looks at the current Panthers salary cap commitments and lack of clear path to the next viable franchise quarterback and thinks to themselves that looks good is not living in reality. This franchise invested 170 million dollars in three players over the last two seasons two of which are increasingly expendable positions while we have been entirely passed by the teams within our division even the lowly Falcons. There is no path to postseason contention when you win one divisional matchup. None of that screams rebuild or retooling especially when you restructure two of those contracts before the ink is barely dry a year later. Trading away multiple first round picks was a dream scenario for the most part but making a bold acquisition for an actual franchise quarterback has been the only rationale left to explain the moves we have made which are the opposite of a rebuild. If we can build a real offensive line I would feel better about this but we seem to be heading in the same direction as previous years if we plan on ignoring trends within the rest of the league by successful teams like an rn by committee approach and not riding one rb like a rented mule and celebrating all purpose yards when your team gets their poo pushed in by the rest of the division because you are one dimensional.

I originally was intrigued by this post but the one dimensional comment was just silly.  We went all defense last draft to address that and as you stated we are in year 2 of a rebuild with a first year GM.  Would be naive to not be trying to get a franchise QB no matter your situation.

BTW...the new GM is looking for OL help despite the mess Hurney left here.

Edited March 27, 2021 by Shocker

[Pimpdaddy]

 

 

[CPF4LIFE]

7 hours ago, WOW!! said:

I don't understand how you go back to Teddy after pretty much spending the offseason shitting on him from the owner to former players.  

You can't use the building a Culture thing when everybody knows you think the suppose leader of your team starting QB is trash...

Agreed. They did even try to keep it on the low that they wanted to move on from teddy.  Thats been the topic of the whole off season. Lol...nothing else.

[frankw]

2 hours ago, Shocker said:

I originally was intrigued by this post but the one dimensional comment was just silly.  We went all defense last draft to address that and as you stated we are in year 2 of a rebuild with a first year GM.  Would be naive to not be trying to get a franchise QB no matter your situation.

BTW...the new GM is looking for OL help despite the mess Hurney left here.

One dimensional offensively if we are making #22 the workhorse without a viable change of pace back. Yes we have talented receivers but we have a timid quarterback so the deep ball game will be limited and we will not be able to keep defenses honest consistently enough.

For all the talk about our defense not forcing a third down it was the defense that kept us in close games in the second half of the season last year. But without legit corners we are still going to get eaten up in the nfc south. We need a quarterback who can go deep with accuracy. Even noodle arm Ryan was dumping on us last year.

[Shocker]

25 minutes ago, frankw said:

One dimensional offensively if we are making #22 the workhorse without a viable change of pace back. Yes we have talented receivers but we have a timid quarterback so the deep ball game will be limited and we will not be able to keep defenses honest consistently enough.

For all the talk about our defense not forcing a third down it was the defense that kept us in close games in the second half of the season last year. But without legit corners we are still going to get eaten up in the nfc south. We need a quarterback who can go deep with accuracy. Even noodle arm Ryan was dumping on us last year.

We have lots of needs.  Got ya

[NanuqoftheNorth]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Thank you for proving my point.

And of course that other guy, Tom.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

And of course that other guy, Tom.

Thanks for further proving my point.

I bet that lottery investment strategy is going well.

[jfra78]

10 hours ago, WOW!! said:

That's great but that 17mil  doesn't exclude you from not giving effort not trying and getting other players hurt..

Not being motivated to play a violent game like football is a death note. 

This is speculative. Teddy will play to the best of his abilities because he is a competitor and he knows he has a chance to make his stock go back up.

[raleigh-panther]

Just now, jfra78 said:

This is speculative. Teddy will play to the best of his abilities because he is a competitor and he knows he has a chance to make his stock go back up.

Yes, he will

the problem is his ability lacks courage and that, as an nfl qb, is not good 

I’m not talking about courage to overcome injury. I’m talking courage to trust what he sees and to have the physical ability to deliver a ball.  He doesn’t have that 

he will be richer than any of us will ever be but I really  don’t want to sit through another year of him as a starter 

listening to him at the line of scrimmage is maddening.  Just run the damned play 

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, raleigh-panther said:

Yes, he will

the problem is his ability lacks courage and that, as an nfl qb, is not good 

I’m not talking about courage to overcome injury. I’m talking courage to trust what he sees and to have the physical ability to deliver a ball.  He doesn’t have that 

he will be richer than any of us will ever be but I really  don’t want to sit through another year of him as a starter 

listening to him at the line of scrimmage is maddening.  Just run the damned play 

Yea I'm not saying he is the answer at QB, but people are saying he is going to play poorly purposely because the team has talked negative about him.  To me this doesnt make sense.  

One more year of Teddy isn't that big of a deal, he was brought in to be a bridge and his contract proves this.