Why nothing matters anymore

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

21 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

My post had absolutely nothing to do with Deshaun Watson.

Sure it did.

You said every decision Tepper made blew up in his face.  One of his decisions was to pursue Watson, and (partly) because of this you have no faith in him.

The only way you can hold Tepper accountable for the decision to pursue Watson is if he had beforehand knowledge of all these civil cases popping up out of the blue.

 

[micnificent28]

5 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Doesn't negate what?

That they weren't tanking?

How can you claim they were tanking when they were actively trying to win games..and did?

 

They...won...games.

Panthers didn't tank because they won *1* game.

Fins went 5-4 to end the season, and you are saying they tanked.

Are you listening to yourself?  They had the same exact record as the Panthers.  But you are telling me they were actively trying to lose.

I didn't say he was fired for tanking, but it was obviously the last straw.  My point is the 2 times last year a coach actively tanked a game..they were also fired.

I sound dumb?  You are saying that a team with the *same record as Carolina* was actively tanking while ending the season on a 5-4 run.

What the hell do you consider tanking?  Obviously you can some how tank while winning games?

I swear.  You can't honestly believe the words you are saying.

I went out of my way to look up the definition of tanking for you and literally the dolphins picture popped up.. I can't make this much clearer for for you..

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

32 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I went out of my way to look up the definition of tanking for you and literally the dolphins picture popped up.. I can't make this much clearer for for you..

...you.  You can't be serious.

Ok. You win.

I am not on enough drugs for this conversation to make sense.  You are using a huge double standard when you talk about "tanking".  And your rebuttal to the dolphins tanking in 2019..is a picture from a google search?  Did you even see what the picture was for?

https://time.com/5735424/sports-teams-tanking/

Its an article from the early 2019 season before the Dolphins turned it around.  Its also an article about how tanking does not work.

 

[micnificent28]

37 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

...you.  You can't be serious.

Ok. You win.

I am not on enough drugs for this conversation to make sense.  You are using a huge double standard when you talk about "tanking".  And your rebuttal to the dolphins tanking in 2019..is a picture from a google search?  Did you even see what the picture was for?

https://time.com/5735424/sports-teams-tanking/

Its an article from the early 2019 season before the Dolphins turned it around.  Its also an article about how tanking does not work.

 

You link to an article I did not use in my explanation. I just used the picture. When I looked up the definition of tanking the picture* came up. Another thing who said 2019 to be exact, but the point of does tanking work or not is subjective. I just said they tanked. Which they did and used them as an example. The whole tanking process hanges on who you get and if they work out.

You can't just put the whole process under some systematic does tanking work formula. Big difference in landing Andrew luck or Trevor Lawrence vs random year Jake fisher is the number 1 selection. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

44 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

You link to an article I did not use in my explanation

...The picture you posted was literally a link to the article.

I found the article by doing the same exact search you did and clicking on the picture you referenced/posted.

You can't be this silly.  

 

45 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Another thing who said 2019 to be exact

When you talk about the recent Miami Dolphins tanking..you are talking about 2019.

At this point I have no confidence you have any clue as to what you are talking about.  

46 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I just said they tanked. Which they did and used them as an example

They did not intentionally lose their games and not try to win.  

You don't end the last 9 games of the season (more than half) with a winning record if you are intentionally trying to lose.

You can't be this stupid.  I refuse to believe it.

This is one of the reasons I've been avoiding the huddle lately. 

[Panthers8969]

2 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Doesn't negate what?

That they weren't tanking?

How can you claim they were tanking when they were actively trying to win games..and did?

 

They...won...games.

Panthers didn't tank because they won *1* game.

Fins went 5-4 to end the season, and you are saying they tanked.

Are you listening to yourself?  They had the same exact record as the Panthers.  But you are telling me they were actively trying to lose.

I didn't say he was fired for tanking, but it was obviously the last straw.  My point is the 2 times last year a coach actively tanked a game..they were also fired.

I sound dumb?  You are saying that a team with the *same record as Carolina* was actively tanking while ending the season on a 5-4 run.

What the hell do you consider tanking?  Obviously you can some how tank while winning games?

I swear.  You can't honestly believe the words you are saying.

There’s 2 ways to tank. That seems to be what you’re missing. Way 1. Play backups. Eagles did this as already mentioned 

Way 2. Trade away good players for draft picks thus making your team worse . Ie, trading away minkah Fitzpatrick, tunsil etc. 

 

just because you won games after utilizing the second method doesn’t mean you didn’t try to tank. It just means it didn’t work as well as you thought it did. Additionally, the GM really controls the 2nd method where as the HC would be in charge of the first. Hope that clears things up for you

[Toomers]

2 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

...you.  You can't be serious.

Ok. You win.

I am not on enough drugs for this conversation to make sense.  You are using a huge double standard when you talk about "tanking".  And your rebuttal to the dolphins tanking in 2019..is a picture from a google search?  Did you even see what the picture was for?

https://time.com/5735424/sports-teams-tanking/

Its an article from the early 2019 season before the Dolphins turned it around.  Its also an article about how tanking does not work.

 

It’s because you, like many, don’t understand the difference in throwing a football game and the “tanking(rebuilding)” the Dolphins did. It’s about not using all available resources to win 5 games instead of 2. We saw what happens when a coach tries that. The Dolphins traded or cut everyone with value, accumulated picks and cap space, and played hard in every game. Now they are loaded after one rebuild year. 
 

   The Panthers spent 80M extra in cap space to finish with the same record. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

56 minutes ago, Toomers said:

It’s because you, like many, don’t understand the difference in throwing a football game and the “tanking(rebuilding)” the Dolphins did. It’s about not using all available resources to win 5 games instead of 2. We saw what happens when a coach tries that. The Dolphins traded or cut everyone with value, accumulated picks and cap space, and played hard in every game. Now they are loaded after one rebuild year. 

You must lack basic reading comprehension, because that has nothing to do with the conversation you are replying to in context.

The people I am responding to are talking specifically about the Panthers throwing a single football game.

The Dolphins did win 5 games...not 2.  So I don't know what you are talking about in your entire paragraph.

 

I am running out of ways to nicely call people silly that aren't even attempting to put enough critical thinking into these sorta statements that would help you pass middle school.

Edited March 28, 2021 by Tepper's Chest Hair

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

1 hour ago, Panthers8969 said:

There’s 2 ways to tank. That seems to be what you’re missing. Way 1. Play backups. Eagles did this as already mentioned 

Way 2. Trade away good players for draft picks thus making your team worse . Ie, trading away minkah Fitzpatrick, tunsil etc. 

 

just because you won games after utilizing the second method doesn’t mean you didn’t try to tank. It just means it didn’t work as well as you thought it did. Additionally, the GM really controls the 2nd method where as the HC would be in charge of the first. Hope that clears things up for you

Awesome.  So Miami failed at tanking.  

They failed so badly at tanking they are considered doing great at what they did do.

You aren't really helping the argument that the Panthers should have tanked.

[Madwolf]

When you rebuild you don't trade away young players, that's incredibly stupid.

You trade away older players who don't fit your next playoff window.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

You must lack basic reading comprehension, because that has nothing to do with the conversation you are replying to in context.

The people I am responding to are talking specifically about the Panthers throwing a single football game.

The Dolphins did win 5 games...not 2.  So I don't know what you are talking about in your entire paragraph.

 

I am running out of ways to nicely call people silly that aren't even attempting to put enough critical thinking into these sorta statements that would help you pass middle school.

No, like others, we perfectly understand that you don’t understand the differences in what you’re stating. Not using all your resources in a given year is nothing near throwing games. 
 

  I’m not the only one that doesn’t understand your opinion. Seems many on here are having trouble with the goalposts moving in your theories. What is it anyhow? Is your theory that a team should put every available resource into to winning the next game and nothing else? 

[Madwolf]

The only time you should trade away young players is if you won't be able to resign them and you're not a good team that year.

[Icege]

4 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I went out of my way to look up the definition of tanking for you and literally the dolphins picture popped up.. I can't make this much clearer for for you..

I would love to see somebody try to argue this as being a legitimate citation for a research paper.

I just want to see the professor's reaction.

poo, I might do it now just to see if I can get away with it.

EDIT: If they say yes, I'm totally buying you a drink.

Edited March 28, 2021 by Icege

[micnificent28]

54 minutes ago, Icege said:

I would love to see somebody try to argue this as being a legitimate citation for a research paper.

I just want to see the professor's reaction.

poo, I might do it now just to see if I can get away with it.

EDIT: If they say yes, I'm totally buying you a drink.

This isn't a research paper. I did a quick google search and showed the first thing that came up.There isn't a Websters definition for tanking in sports exactly..what are you trying to prove with this explanation of nothing to do with nothing. I STATED my point and proved what I was trying to say. You one of those guys who come into threads and say grammer*

Please take several seats.

Edited March 28, 2021 by micnificent28