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Deshaun Allegations detailed (not good)

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Monrowed Grand Master

Monrowed

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sorry dude, but the suggestion that if this doesn't go to criminal court nobody's going to care is completely off the mark.

The allegations that have been made here are pretty serious, and the notion that a team in this day and age would just sweep them under the rug is just not credible.

Well dude (I guess this is a thing now), I never said that no one was not going to care. I was speaking to the legality of the situation. Apparently there are a few folks here that do not understand that there is a difference in civil and criminal. 

Think of OJ Simpson as an example. The police had enough evidence to charge him and take him to criminal court. When judgement was passed he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. However, perception and circumstantial evidence clearly showed that he probably was guilty (I think that he was) and that led to the civil lawsuit that found him guilty. The judgement was a financial penalty that he is still paying, or will pay for the remainder of his life. 
 

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14 minutes ago, Mage said:

Yeah the way it is being handled is scummy as hell.  

I mean, the sex stuff aside--

Client solicitation is an ABA conduct violation.  He marketed his own experience and background in his rambling posts while basically advertising the forthcoming lawsuits like it was a preview for a tv show.  And now it looks more like him vs. Deshaun rather than the women he claims he represents.

And now, he's glamorizing this and it's just unfortunate regardless of what really happened (which sounds like it could be bad news for Watson).

Let's just get Lance haha

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Just now, uncfan888 said:

Some people are way too excited about Watson and this poo storm

Not sure who's "excited" (except maybe Sizzlebuzz) but this is way beyond being just a football story. Frankly, it's a pretty terrible story overall. The football part of it is the least concern.

As Ellis pointed out, somebody winds up hurt in all this. Maybe it's an innocent guy. Maybe it's a group of victimized women. Who knows... but it's all pretty nasty either way.

That's not really something anybody should be "excited" about.

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11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, some of the women involved in this story are state licensed massage therapists. As was pointed out, that's not an easy thing to become. And if it were true, that would be a pretty easy thing to figure out.

Just because they're licensed doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. Are they risking getting their license revoked, yes, but the tradeoff of getting a payday is probably worth it.  They could get more money in a civil law suit settlement than if they worked as massage therapists for 30 years.  If they really wanted "justice", they could have filed criminal charges.

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1 minute ago, NAS said:

Just because they're licensed doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. Are they risking getting their license revoked, yes, but the tradeoff of getting a payday is probably worth it.  They could get more money in a civil law suit settlement than if they worked as masseuse for 30 years

You think all 9 are in on it.  

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1 minute ago, NAS said:

Just because they're licensed doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. Are they risking getting their license revoked, yes, but the tradeoff of getting a payday is probably worth it.  They could get more money in a civil law suit settlement than if they worked as masseuse for 30 years

As was previously asked, all nine of them?

Worth noting that yhey're risking a lot more than their license. Win or lose, pretty good chance their lives are never going to be the same after this. People's identities do often come out in stories like this, and death threats typically follow.

And to be real, do you actually think "paid escorts" would go through the court system where their professions would be a point of evidence? Back channel contacts threatening to go public if they didn't get paid, maybe. The court system? A lot less likely.

I'd add too that knee jerk reactions like "just a bunch of sluts trying to get paid" are pretty embarrassing. Watson may or may not be guilty, but we should all at least be mature enough to see what happens.

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