Deshaun Allegations detailed (not good)

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

The thing that sucks about this for ALL parties is that its just going to end up his word vs her's. The truth will never come out, and career(s) will be destroyed.

well given how much reportedly went down via Instagram/private messages and that being their business model 

it shouldn't come down to just a he said, she said.    

[Kuhndog94]

Just now, Harbingers said:

If the one does actually have legit Non-fabricated text(the court can verify them as legit pretty easily) they claim she does its way passed a her word vs. his. 

The problem with that text is if he said something like "Hey, sorry for asking for that happy ending.", does that automatically condemn him for all of the other accusations. Going from asking for a happy ending to sexual assault allegations is a pretty big leap. 

[onmyown]

6 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

The thing that sucks about this for ALL parties is that its just going to end up his word vs her's. The truth will never come out, and career(s) will be destroyed.

Doubtful.

What will happen, is most likely the same thing with Rothlisburger, a settlement with no details and Watson will continue playing.

His reputation may be a bit tarnished with snarky comments but probably not on the same scale as Ben.

Unless either a victim or Watson is true about really not caring about money - the details will never come out or matter in court.

But in reality, that almost never happens.

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

If the one does actually have legit Non-fabricated text(the court can verify them as legit pretty easily) they claim she does its way passed a her word vs. his. 

 

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

well given how much reportedly went down via Instagram/private messages and that being their business model 

it shouldn't come down to just a he said, she said.    

Yeah thats true, if they have evidence that it indeed did come from him. I don't know the full story but one has to wonder what the texr would say to put him in a guilty position. You have to wonder why not charge him then if they have that kind of proof?

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

The problem with that text is if he said something like "Hey, sorry for asking for that happy ending.", does that automatically condemn him for all of the other accusations. Going from asking for a happy ending to sexual assault allegations is a pretty big leap. 

That would be a very poor decision on his part. Asking for one is bad enough, giving someone ammunition that can turn into something bigger is a whole other level...

[rodeo]

14 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Kraft's paramour was a willing participant...

...surely you understand the difference?

human trafficking victims are not willing participants. the police were called on the massage parlor that Kraft was in because it fit the tell tale signs of human trafficking.

edit: i see you've already had this explained to you but are ignoring it, so i'll chalk you down as a bad-faith arguer

[ForJimmy]

Does he not have people to schedule his massages and if he is wanting something more surely they can arrange that with someone willing? This whole this is just weird...

[Monrowed]

5 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Doubtful.

What will happen, is most likely the same thing with Rothlisburger, a settlement with no details and Watson will continue playing.

His reputation may be a bit tarnished with snarky comments but probably not on the same scale as Ben.

Unless either a victim or Watson is true about really not caring about money - the details will never come out or matter in court.

But in reality, that almost never happens.

This is exactly what will happen. This is also why it should not deter the Panthers from pursuing him.

[mickeye76]

23 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

No NFL team is gonna trade for a guy whos gonna be immediately suspended.

Time to wrap it up boys

Yea this has torpedoed the hopes and pipe dream some had of trading for Watson.  I for one am glad.  Too expensive in the long run.  I'd rather trade up with Miami and take a rookie.  Let's compare trade options. 

A.  Swap 1st this year.  1st and 2nd next year.  Get whoever the Jets don't take. Fields, Lance or Wilson.

B.  Trade our 1st for the next three years. Trade YGM and Donte Jackson.  And help pay Watson's lawyer bills and spend every press conference defending him. 

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Does he not have people to schedule his massages and if he is wanting something more surely they can arrange that with someone willing? This whole this is just weird...

he flew a girl cross country from instagram to give him a "massage" while he staying at a hotel spa?   Yeah, that is a red flag for all parties involved.  

this whole thing just screams Watson uses instagram escorts.  As do a poo ton of NFL players. 

only question IMO is....were they instagram escorts or actual professional massage people.    If they are actual massage professionals with a real client base? Well, that is going to be tough for Watson to overcome even in a he said, she said. 

*obviously a sex worker can still be a victim of a crime.   But that isn't the allegation. 

[Harbingers]

6 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

 

Yeah thats true, if they have evidence that it indeed did come from him. I don't know the full story but one has to wonder what the texr would say to put him in a guilty position. You have to wonder why not charge him then if they have that kind of proof?

Because the conduct from that situation doesn’t rise to criminal levels. That said the attorney isn’t the one to bring criminal charges that would be the DA and the story breaking publicly could potential be the first the DA heard of it. 

[SizzleBuzz]

53 minutes ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

The rape allegations aren't a year later, they're 3 months later. Thats my most concerning thing with these allegations is the increase in the severity as time goes on.

The attorney still needs to at least corroborate the claims before he wastes his time (read his money) on it.

Speaking of Buzzbee strikes me as every other personal injury attorney in the world. Wacky commercials,  advertisements on city busses and billboards, jingles, absurd over the top personalities, etc.

All that said, if these allegations are true. I hope the DA picks it up and runs with it for criminal charges and Watson gets jail time. 

I have faith in the justice system and hope the truth comes out regardless what it means for the Carolina Panthers. Either way you slice it this is bigger than football.

Interesting on the 3 months.  For a while now I've felt someone with very poor judgement wormed their way into Deshaun's inner circle after he signed his big contract and started influencing him in a bad way.  The way this whole thing was approached with the Texans seems to go against the general demeanor and behavior he exhibited in the past. 

Buzbee is wacky for sure...but he is also highly competent and very very successful.  If he doesn't have his i's dotted and t's crossed I will be very surprised.

That's how it went down with Harvey Weinstein.  Incidents that were never reported to the police at the time, many years if not decades old, were used to put him in jail for 23 years.  Certainly not predicting anything of the sort for DW, but...he's got some tough sledding ahead of him.

I think the system will function as it should.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[amcoolio]

If Deshaun is truly innocent, he needs to get out ahead of this, hold a presser vehemently denying everything, and counter sue for defamation.

If he settles then yeah, he probably did it. Disappointing, but won't end his career. I mean Rothlisberger shoved a women in a bathroom stall and flashed his penis and still went on to play 10 years.

[top dawg]

2 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

If Deshaun is truly innocent, he needs to get out ahead of this, hold a presser vehemently denying everything, and counter sue for defamation.

If he settles then yeah, he probably did it. Disappointing, but won't end his career. I mean Rothlisberger shoved a women in a bathroom stall and flashed his penis and still went on to play 10 years.

It's still a she-said-he-said until hard evidence is presented!