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MHS831 Grand Master

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How many big plays does a top DE make each game? 

How many times does a top WR get the ball in his hands each game?
 

How often does a QB make a big play each game?  How often is the game left up to the qb vs the DE and the WR?

So if you will pay a top DE $20m, a top WR $20m--what is the QB worth?

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Tbe Grand Master

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Guys, Deshaun is going to have four sexual assault suits against him by the end of the week.

Those aren’t going away by the draft.

No one is going to trade for him with that stuff over his head.

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2 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

This actually doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They hired Rhule to build a program from the ground up. He is a team builder. Mortgaging the future on one guy just doesn't seem to fit that narrative at all. I get DeShaun is close to a top 5 QB if not already but look at the year he just had. Pretty damn good year and it still wasn't enough for Houston to make the playoffs. The Panthers just went 5-11. They aren't anywhere close to being "one player away" from being a SB contender. Adding DeShaun while neutering Rhule and his "program rebuild skills" by trading away 4-5 1st rounders + more doesn't seem like the best recipe for success.

I don't understand the Watson is going to destroy us crowd. Not now at least. No deal has been made yet. So, instead of getting all upset about how much is going to cost until you KNOW how much it's going to cost, why not just say when we get him for a reasonable price this could finally make this team legit again with a franchise QB. That's what I do. I agree with you that if we traded away all our picks and our best players then it will suck but I DO NOT believe that will happen at all. Not even in the slightest. Don't listen to the writers and bloggers and all these folks they just need something to talk about. I've been saying this since the Watson talks began. He isn't going to cost as much as people think he is. Some of the trade suggestions are beyond ridiculous. Just relax and enjoy the ride knowing they aren't going to trade away the whole team and future for him. Have a little faith brothers and sisters

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3 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Guys, Deshaun is going to have four sexual assault suits against him by the end of the week.

Those aren’t going away by the draft.

No one is going to trade for him with that stuff over his head.

I have a feeling the Texans had something to do with this coming to light.  Had he stayed this would never have been made public because, if true, there most likley would have been a quiet settlement.  It's to their advantage for sure.  Again, if true.

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4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I have a feeling the Texans had something to do with this coming to light.  Had he stayed this would never have been made public because, if true, there most likley would have been a quiet settlement.  It's to their advantage for sure.  Again, if true.

It’s extremely suspicious on multiple  levels.

But the fact remains. Who would trade for him right now and take on that PR disaster? 
 

It’s over.

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6 minutes ago, Tbe said:

It’s extremely suspicious on multiple  levels.

But the fact remains. Who would trade for him right now and take on that PR disaster? 
 

It’s over.

Four looks kinda bad, and if this is a thing with him then there's the potential for more to come out of the woodwork.

At that point, it's really bad.

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14 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I have a feeling the Texans had something to do with this coming to light.  Had he stayed this would never have been made public because, if true, there most likley would have been a quiet settlement.  It's to their advantage for sure.  Again, if true.

Certainly convenient timing and the lawyer behind it is a McNair family friend and neighbor. If Watson and his crew can prove the McNair's are behind it, Watson may be off the table because he might be the new owner of the Houston Texans by the time this is over. LOL!

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22 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Guys, Deshaun is going to have four sexual assault suits against him by the end of the week.

Those aren’t going away by the draft.

No one is going to trade for him with that stuff over his head.

I think you are right, unfortunately.... timing is very odd .. 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Certainly convenient timing and the lawyer behind it is a McNair family friend and neighbor. If Watson and his crew can prove the McNair's are behind it, Watson may be off the table because he might be the new owner of the Houston Texans by the time this is over. LOL!

Well I can say is this, it appears the worm has turned in the DeShaun Watson saga.  Stay tuned folks.

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39 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Watson's record as a starter is 28-25 according to Pro-Football Reference (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsDe00.htm) which includes 4-12 in 2020.

edit: keep in mind he only started 6 games in 2017, where the Texans were 3-3.  As a started, his year-by-year record is 3-3, 11-5, 10-5, and 4-12.

The statement was about the team record 4 years before and after.

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1 hour ago, Jared Patterson said:

So could we get him for just 3 or 4 first round picks or do they want players?

At this point, with most of the Teams already having their QBs in place for next season or have their money spent and with these suspicious allegations popping up, I highly doubt the Texans will have many, if any serious offers for Watson. If Carolina still want him I don't think they will have to compete with more than 1 or maybe 2 teams. I wouldn't be surprised if we were the only team at this point to be honest. The Texans will either have to take nothing and let him sit out or take our offer. 1st and 3rd 2021, 1st in 2022 and then depending on who is bidding too, maybe a 3rd in 2022 or in 2023. The Texans screwed up by being the Texans. They should have traded him 2 weeks ago with they would have had a bidding war probably. I think we spend 3 picks, max 4. Who do you think will offer them more than 2 1sts and a 3rd at this time? Denver? Doubt it, they are in Colorado. SF? Now? No way. NE? Maybe but I doubt it plus they'd have to do better than that top beat us. WFT? Now? No way. They don't even have a proper team name or cheerleaders. The Bears are waiting for Wilson next year. Who else is there? Who is going to outbid now?

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