Verge's Draft General thread 2021

[Verge]

Hi there! This will be my updated draft thread, where I will keep my position rankings, top 50-100 players, rumors, etc etc I will update this constantly as we get closer to the draft and will post all rumors I hear within this thread to make it easier for you.


With that being said I will start this thread with my updated top 50 separated by tiers and asterisks next to players the Panthers should/might target. 

Top 50 players: 
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE
(Tier seperation)
2. Zach Wilson, QB,  BYU*
3. Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO*
4. Penei Sewell, T, ORE*
5. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU
6. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB, ND*
7. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
8. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW *
9. Caleb Farley, CB, VT*
10. Micah Parsons, OLB/ILB, PST*
(Tier separation)
11. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC *
12. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH
13. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC*
14. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU *
15. Justin Fields, QB, OHST*
16. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
(Tier separation)
17. Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami
18. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA*
19. Christian Darrisaw, T, VT *
20. Carlos Basham, EDGE, WF
21. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE
22. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL
23. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA
24. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO 
25. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
26. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA*
27. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO*
28. Javonte Williams, RB, UNC
29. Jamin Davis, LB, KEN*
(Tier seperation)
30. Kadarious Toney, WR/RB, FLO
31. Gregory Rousseau, EDGE, MIA 
32. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM
33. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MIC*
34. Greg Newsome, CB, NW*
35. Jevon Holland, S, ORE*
36. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA *
37. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU*
38. Nick Bolton, LB, MIZZ*
39. Jackson Carman, OT/G, CLE*
40. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR
41. Trey Hill, C, GEO*
42. Jay Tufele, DT, USC
(Tier seperation)
43. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST
44. Samuel Cosmi, OT, TEX *
45. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST*
46. Teven Jenkins, OT, OKST*
47. Trey Smith, G, TEN *
48. Tyree Gillespie, S, MIZZ*
49. Marquez Stevenson, WR, HOU
50. Michael Carter, RB, UNC


Also, since I was asked how I would rank this QB class compared to the last: 
1. Trevor Lawrence 
2. Joe Burrow 
3. Zach Wilson 
4. Tua Tagovailoa
5. Justin Herbert 
6. Trey Lance 
7. Justin Fields 
8. Mac Jones 
9. Kellen Mond 
10. Jordan Love 

 

 

Verge's new top 5 at each position as of 3/20:

 

QBs:
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE
2. Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
3. Justin Fields, QB, OHST
4. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
5. Kellen Mond, QB, TAM

RBs:
1. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE
2. Najee Harris, RB, ALA
3. Javonte Williams, RB, UNC 
4. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM
5. Trey Sermon, RB, OHST 

WRs: 
1. JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU 
2. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA

3. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA 
4. Kadarius Toney, WR, FLO
5. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR 

TEs: 
1-5. Kyle Pitts, TE/WR, FLO 
2. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 
3. Pat Freiermuth, TE, PEN
4. Hunter Long, TE, BC 
5. Tre McKitty, TE, GEO 

OT: 
1. Penei Sewell, OT, ORE
2. Christian Darrisaw, OT, VT
3. Alex Leatherwood, OT, ALA
4. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MICH
5. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC 

Interior O-line: 
1. Rashawn Slater, OT/G/C, NW
2. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC
3. Landon Dickerson, C/G, ALA
4. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST
5. Trey Smith, G, TEN (depending on medicals) 

Edge: 
1. Jaelan Philips, DE, MIA
2. Kwity Paye, DE, MICH 
3. Gregory Rousseau, DE, MIA 
4. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL
5. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO

Defensive Tackle:
1. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA
2. Levi Onwuzurike, DT, WAS
3. Jay Tufele, DT, USC
4. Daviyon Nixon, DT, IOW 
5. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST

LB:
1. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB/S, ND 
2. Micah Parsons, ILB/OLB, PEN 
3. Jamin Davis, ILB/OLB, KEN 
4. Nick Bolton, ILB/OLB, MIZZ 
5. Jabril Cox, ILB/OLB, LSU 

S: 
1. Jevon Holland, S, ORE
2. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU 
3. Tyree Gillespie, S, MIZZ 
4. Richie Grant, S, CF 
5. Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, FLST

CB: 
1. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC 
2. Patrick Surtain II., CB, ALA 
3. Caleb Farley, CB, VT 
4. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO
5. Kelvin Joseph, CB, KEN

[Khyber53]

Mac Jones doesn't make your top 50?

[BurnNChinn]

Lol I’m glad u show Mac Jones is not even in top 50 because he is not worth it. I wish everyone would shut up about Big Mac.

[BurnNChinn]

2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Mac Jones doesn't make your top 50?

No because he is not that good, people need to quit listening to the Jones to Panthers at 8. We’re not that stupid!

Edited March 14, 2021 by BurnNChinn

[TheRumGone]

2 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

No because he is not that good, people need to quit listening to the Jones to Panthers at 8. We’re not that stupid!

We signed teddy Bridgewater to a 63 mill contract. No stupidity is off the table as far as I’m concerned.

[Khyber53]

3 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

No because he is not that good, people need to quit listening to the Jones to Panthers at 8. We’re not that stupid!

You  sure get triggered easily.

[Dex]

2 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

No because he is not that good, people need to quit listening to the Jones to Panthers at 8. We’re not that stupid!

[Verge]

13 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Mac Jones doesn't make your top 50?

Nah.

[stirs]

Not sure Tua deserves top 5 billing

 

On the draft board, not sure what you see in Koramoah that moves him into the top 10

I also have a feeling Leatherwood will drop to the 2nd round.

 

Other than that, I am okay for the most part

[Icege]

Are there any potential day 3 prospects or UDFAs that you're intrigued by?

Edited March 14, 2021 by Icege

[kungfoodude]

46 minutes ago, Verge said:

Also, since I was asked how I would rank this QB class compared to the last: 
1. Trevor Lawrence 
2. Joe Burrow 
3. Zach Wilson 
4. Tua Tagovailoa
5. Justin Herbert 
6. Trey Lance 
7. Justin Fields 
8. Mac Jones 
9. Kellen Mond 
10. Jordan Love 

Interesting ranking.

Why would you take Burrow, Wilson and Tua over Herbert?

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Tua is based on where Verge had him last year to compare, not based on how good he actually played. Herbert would be higher than Burrow.

Yeah, quite honestly, I would take Herbert over any of those QB's at the moment. Only maybe Fields and Lance can touch his ceiling and he has actually shown it on the field.

[Verge]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Interesting ranking.

Why would you take Burrow, Wilson and Tua over Herbert?

This is based on my grades when I was scouting them, as in as they entered the draft. I flip flopped all year between Herbert and Tua. Most of the year Herbert was my locked in #1 overall pick, but Burrow kind of flipped all that on it's head. I ultimately decided on Tua over Hebert by the slightest of margins just because of release time and lack of questions about offensive design. I had a serious draft crush on Herbert though. 

[BurnNChinn]

48 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

You  sure get triggered easily.

Not really, just know Mac Jones is not a first rd pick.