Delhomme doesn't lead league in int's anymore!!!

[monstercat]

I've got a feeling that if Cutler was on this team, people would have no problem blaming the WR's for some of these INT's and incompletions instead of the QB. Hell, some of you wanted to trade our whole draft to get that guy in a Panthers uniform.

[monstercat]

Cutler's 15 TD's > Delhomme's 5 TD's (points are what counts)

Delhomme Fumbles Lost 3 X Cutler's Fumbles Lost

Anybody that expected Delhomme to have a bunch of TD passes were misguided in the first place. The Panthers would run it 90% of the time in the redzone no matter who the QB is, because our RB's are usually money down there.

[Carolinafan320]

jake would not be a starter on any other NFL team right now.

[KatsAzz]

.It is obvious to all but the most brain-dead observer that the coaching staff, contrary to what they say, does not have faith that Jake can run the offense without causing problems. They are trying to work around him and win despite him being in there.

Yes, the receivers are not getting open very often. But half the times when they do, Jake misses them badly. He has thrown several INTs when targeting a wide open receiver by either overthrowing them or throwing behind them.

This begs the question, is Matt Moore so god-awful that the coaches think trying to work around Delhomme is better than trying to something different? Also, if Moore is that bad, that Jake is a better option, why is he still on the roster at all?

I'm not saying that I think Moore would be the saving grace for this season. But I really fail to see how he could make it any worse.

[panthers55]

.It is obvious to all but the most brain-dead observer that the coaching staff, contrary to what they say, does not have faith that Jake can run the offense without causing problems. They are trying to work around him and win despite him being in there.

Yes, the receivers are not getting open very often. But half the times when they do, Jake misses them badly. He has thrown several INTs when targeting a wide open receiver by either overthrowing them or throwing behind them.

This begs the question, is Matt Moore so god-awful that the coaches think trying to work around Delhomme is better than trying to something different? Also, if Moore is that bad, that Jake is a better option, why is he still on the roster at all?

I'm not saying that I think Moore would be the saving grace for this season. But I really fail to see how he could make it any worse.

Another just as valid take on this is that Fox has always wanted to run the ball on every play and last year it didn't gel until the end of the season. This year we came out throwing for whatever reason and it backfired on us so he went back to the run again. It may be that Davidson wanted to pass and Fox wanted to run. When the passing game didn't work out it gave Fox grounds to insist we run. If we pass it is sure short passes which are often considered an extention of the run game.

It might not matter who we have in at quarterback, we aren't going to throw that much unless we have to. Jake hasn't thrown a pick in the past 2 games but I expect we come out running and pass when we need to. I bet we would be balanced even if Brees were here.

So far we have only run 20 more times than we have thrown it and we have more passing first downs compared to rushing ones. We are actually running the same mix of rushing and passing plays we did last year.

[Gman was right]

Great math there. He hasn't thrown a pick in his last 44 passing attempts against New Orleans and Arizona. Somehow if he threw 8 more attempts I rather doubt he would get very many interceptions. Against Atlanta he threw 41 times and the only pick was a 4th down play where the ball was going to go over to the Falcons if Smitty didn't catch it either.

Give me a break. If you are going to jump on Jake when he sucks at least man up enough to give him credit when he plays better. It isn't like you won't get a chance to bash him when he sucks again down the road.

Give jake credit for what? Throwing a hundred yards per game? Just because he didn't throw any ints doesn't mean he's playing good. Get it through your head. Jake is still a bad qb no matter what cutler does

[panthers55]

Give jake credit for what? Throwing a hundred yards per game? Just because he didn't throw any ints doesn't mean he's playing good. Get it through your head. Jake is still a bad qb no matter what cutler does

Bottom line is that for a quarterback the stats are what matters. And yes if a quarterback doesn't throw picks and makes first downs he is playing well just like when he throws picks he is playing bad. Get it through your head, football is about what you do lately. You can play bad and then good all within a span of several games.

[Gman was right]

Bottom line is that for a quarterback the stats are what matters. And yes if a quarterback doesn't throw picks and makes first downs he is playing well just like when he throws picks he is playing bad. Get it through your head, football is about what you do lately. You can play bad and then good all within a span of several games.

We didn't get first downs because of jake we got them because of the running backs. We have to rely on them so much just so jake can't screw it up. Throwing for one hindred yards is not a good game. He's being asked to move out the way so he doesn't kill this team more than he already has. That's all he has done lately

[panthers55]

We didn't get first downs because of jake we got them because of the running backs. We have to rely on them so much just so jake can't screw it up. Throwing for one hindred yards is not a good game. He's being asked to move out the way so he doesn't kill this team more than he already has. That's all he has done lately

All year or against New Orleans. For the year we have 75 first downs passing and 63 rushing. Against New Orleans is was 9 first down rushing and 11 passing. And he passed for over 200 yards.

Wrong on all counts like usual. Why not go back to trolling on something that is harder to prove like how many opposing fans there were on a particular Sunday.:thumbsup:

[AceMan]

Delhomme will retake his throne tomorrow.

[Gman was right]

That's because the saints committed nine men in the box on third down. Even a terrible qb like can take advantage of that on occasion. jake still one of the worst passer ratings in the nfl even with his stud like performance last week lol. Ill go back to counting fans when you stop slurping every mediocre player and coach on the team

[Gman was right]

Oh yeah when I say you're slurping I'm not talking about koolaid. Just wanna clear that up lol

[God]

Delhomme will retake his throne tomorrow.

Yep, I see a 4 INT game tomorrow.

[CRA]

Another just as valid take on this is that Fox has always wanted to run the ball on every play and last year it didn't gel until the end of the season. This year we came out throwing for whatever reason and it backfired on us so he went back to the run again. It may be that Davidson wanted to pass and Fox wanted to run. When the passing game didn't work out it gave Fox grounds to insist we run. If we pass it is sure short passes which are often considered an extention of the run game.

It might not matter who we have in at quarterback, we aren't going to throw that much unless we have to. Jake hasn't thrown a pick in the past 2 games but I expect we come out running and pass when we need to. I bet we would be balanced even if Brees were here.

So far we have only run 20 more times than we have thrown it and we have more passing first downs compared to rushing ones. We are actually running the same mix of rushing and passing plays we did last year.

We aren't running the same mix....we are running close to the same number. What occured against AZ and NO isn't John Fox football that he has had success with. His conservative run, run, run offense ONLY works when you add in the deep play action balls. That has been taken out now.....taken out b/c everyone knows it is too big of a risk w/ Jake.

Run, run, safe throw, run, safe throw, run, run...is not John Fox football. Fox may be conservative but w/o going downfield it just isn't going to work.