Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, Aquemini said:

@TheCasillas

When NE won first ring, Brady had 1 pass TD, 1 rush TD, entire postseason.

Can you stop bringing up early 2000's NE success when Brady game managed the team to 3 Super Bowls, God

I'd love for you to provide an another example where I spoke of the early 2000s Patriots on this message board. Of the 15 years ive been on this MB.... this thread is probably the first time ive brought this up.

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I think you are in the minority on that opinion but if you say so. 

Let's reverse the scenario.  What would Bridgewater done in NE?  And what would Cam had done in Carolina?

Honestly Cam puts us in the playoffs with the weapons we had.  His arm strength may not have been up to 2015 but it would have been far better than TB5.   Cam given the chance to win 8 games during the season, at minimum, would have won at least 50%.  That puts us at 9-7.

TB5 in New England.  You're looking at New England in the top 5 draft picks and probably contending with Jacksonville and the NYJ for the top spot. 

 

Patriots lost 4 games by a single score in 2020, and another 2 with Stidham/Hoyer at QB.... If the majority of people here thinks that Brady would not have won those games.... that is a little concerning. 

The reverse scenario would both end up the same. A losing season for the carolina panthers. Our defense was nowhere as good as NE's this year.

[ChibCU]

Patriots had so many opt-outs last year. They'll have a much better roster this year.

[mrcompletely11]

17 minutes ago, Aquemini said:

Like when NE signed Cam last July. They said it by no means makes Cam the starter, and that Stidham still had a shot to be the starter. Sure he did. But for all intensive purposes, when Cam signed, he was the starter. 

Like now.

Intensive purposes?

[mrcompletely11]

11 minutes ago, Aquemini said:

6 games with a rating of at least 94.6 .. 4 games with a 100+ rating .. all while throwing to UDFA WR's, no TE

More rushing TD than Murray .. 600 rushing yards ..

And yet all he could muster was an incentive heavy deal, I wonder why that is?

[DaveThePanther2008]

10 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Patriots lost 4 games by a single score in 2020, and another 2 with Stidham/Hoyer at QB.... If the majority of people here thinks that Brady would not have won those games.... that is a little concerning. 

The reverse scenario would both end up the same. A losing season for the carolina panthers. Our defense was nowhere as good as NE's this year.

Yet they put us in the position to win 8 games and TB5 won none of them. 

My opinion, Brady would not have fared any better in N.E. in 2020.  

Our opinions differ and that's ok.  I'm not going to change my mind and you surely aren't changing yours.

We'll leave it at that. 

[TheCasillas]

7 minutes ago, Aquemini said:

6 games with a rating of at least 94.6 .. 4 games with a 100+ rating .. all while throwing to UDFA WR's, no TE

More rushing TD than Murray .. 600 rushing yards ..

[mrcompletely11]

His arm is fine 

[Rocky Davis]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Intensive purposes?

I think they meant intents and purposes.  It's an eggcorn.

[Rocky Davis]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Sure seems you are hating on Cam now, maybe it just wasn't my "innaccurate post."

 

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Yet they put us in the position to win 8 games and TB5 won none of them. 

My opinion, Brady would not have fared any better in N.E. in 2020.  

Our opinions differ and that's ok.  I'm not going to change my mind and you surely aren't changing yours.

We'll leave it at that. 

its all speculation, and i respect your opinion. 

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

Sure seems you are hating on Cam now, maybe it just wasn't my "innaccurate post."

 

No hate here. Just providing that there is proof showing that his arm isnt as good as it once was. To argue that he is a superstar still... doesnt have the footage to back him up from 2020.

Edited March 12, 2021 by TheCasillas
corektd tipo bc Rockie iz supr kritikal on me spelln

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

No hate here. Just providing that there is proof showing that his arm isnt as good as it once was. To argue that he is a superstar still... doesnt have the footage to back him up from 2020.

pretty much this

 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00/gamelog/2020/advanced/

 

Here are the game logs for cam.  Look at the games immediately after he threw the ball 20 times or more and tell me his arm isnt shot.  Dude had less than 10 completions 4 times. 

[TheCasillas]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

pretty much this

 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00/gamelog/2020/advanced/

 

Here are the game logs for cam.  Look at the games immediately after he threw the ball 20 times or more and tell me his arm isnt shot.  Dude had less than 10 completions 4 times. 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/new-england-patriots-offense-cam-newton-throwing-right-side-injury