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Kyle Van Noy

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Like others have said, the scheme isn't a fit. However, even beyond that, some team is going to regret paying him. He wasn't that good last year, and seems to be declining. Miami signed him to a 4 year team friendly deal, he played for Flores in New England. Miami used the team friendly deal to their advantage yo move on after only 1 year of the 4 year deal. He and his agent want put themselves in that situation again.

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Was a 3-4 but they played 4 down line men Nik D all the time. Burns play just as much DE as OLB that year. I'm also holding out hope Miller balls out and DE is already set for this upcoming season. Miller also played a lot of DE his rookie year..

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35 minutes ago, joemac said:

Yeah, I thought we officially switched to a 3-4 in his rookie year.....didn't we???

It was a multiple front. Burns was versatile enough to play hand in the dirt or standing up...

But he was the only one...hence all the issues. I'm surprised Tepper even signed off on the change because transitioning to a true 3-4 would take 2 or 3 cycles and he gave Rivera less than 6 months. 

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1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

It was a multiple front. Burns was versatile enough to play hand in the dirt or standing up...

But he was the only one...hence all the issues. I'm surprised Tepper even signed off on the change because transitioning to a true 3-4 would take 2 or 3 cycles and he gave Rivera less than 6 months. 

No one else? We signed Bruce Irvin. We had Marquis Haynes who fits a 3-4 OLB role better than a 4-3 DE role, same for Christian Miller who was drafted the same year as Burns. The issue with that D was that we sold out TOO hard on rushing the passer. We couldn't rush the passer at all in '18 so we doubled down on speed on the edges with seemingly no thoughts on stopping the run and it showed on the field. It looked like what it was - a 4-3 scheme playing 3-4 OLBs at DE.

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On 3/2/2021 at 5:46 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

No one else? We signed Bruce Irvin. We had Marquis Haynes who fits a 3-4 OLB role better than a 4-3 DE role, same for Christian Miller who was drafted the same year as Burns. The issue with that D was that we sold out TOO hard on rushing the passer. We couldn't rush the passer at all in '18 so we doubled down on speed on the edges with seemingly no thoughts on stopping the run and it showed on the field. It looked like what it was - a 4-3 scheme playing 3-4 OLBs at DE.

So we had three rookies and a pass rushing specialist? You have to have time for your guys to mature or to bring in some true 3-4 OLB that can do more than pass rush. We didn't have that and weren't going to have that for at least 2 full seasons in transition. It made no sense to me why Tepper even signed off on it given changing defensive base systems is far more time and resource consuming than changing offenses. 

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