Kiper Mock 2.0: Mac Jones to Panthers at #8.

[JawnyBlaze]

Glad it’s Mel Kiper and not someone who should be taken seriously. This just about guarantees we won’t take Jones. 

Edited February 26, 2021 by JawnyBlaze

[UncleWillie]

[Camp Fodder]

10 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

He won't last until then. He won a national championship and looked good doing it. People will jump just for that.

So did Chris Weinke

[Aussie Tank]

I’d rather sign Trubitsky 

[Pup McBarky]

20 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

So did Chris Weinke

Different guy, different era. People think Jones is Brady 2.0 or at the very least, Brady lite. He'll be drafted in the first round.

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

So did Chris Weinke

To be fair, Weinke was about 40 years old.

But yeah, there have been a fair number of national championship quarterbacks that haven't exactly been draft darlings.

[cmichd54]

10 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Their OL was better but his sack percentage in 2019 was 5.8% and it was 5.9% in 2020. His pressure percentage was 20% in 2019 and 19.8% in 2020. His bad throw percentage was 11.8% in 2019 and 13.0% in 2020. His completion percentage about expectation was +0.6 in 2019 and +2.3 in 2020.

So, in reality his performances in 2019 and 2020 were fairly similar, even with the better supporting cast in NO. They just had a team that was so good that it was able to win with him at QB. Hell, look at Taysom Hill going 3-1 with the Saints last year. We all know what a joke he is as a QB. 

I agree Kung.  Teddy wasn't that bad.  I am going off what I watched.  The opposition team turn the heat up in the 4 quarter.  Plus again we were without a quality LT for 11 of 16 games with Okung and Little only started 3 games and played in 7 more then placed on IR. 

   

 

[Mr. Scot]

This probably won't go over well either, but it is something I thought of...

If we were to draft Jones, whether it be at number 8 or after trading down, you could very well be looking at at least a two year commitment to him.

First year, he may not start at all or may only start a limited number of games. You wouldn't get a full read on him as a starter until next season.

And yeah, that could mean another year of Teddy Bridgewater sitting at the top of the depth chart.

 

 

I hope everyone feels very encouraged

[kungfoodude]

20 minutes ago, cmichd54 said:

I agree Kung.  Teddy wasn't that bad.  I am going off what I watched.  The opposition team turn the heat up in the 4 quarter.  Plus again we were without a quality LT for 11 of 16 games with Okung and Little only started 3 games and played in 7 more then placed on IR. 

   

 

He wasn't very good and cost us the bulk of the victories in the second half of the season. He just isn't capable of being a full time starter in the NFL. Damn good backup guy but not a starter in the NFL.

Okung was very good when he played. Little was fuging awful. I am not sure why he hasn't just been cut yet. 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This probably won't go over well either, but it is something I thought of...

If we were to draft Jones, whether it be at number 8 or after trading down, you could very well be looking at at least a two year commitment to him.

First year, he may not start at all or may only start a limited number of games. You wouldn't get a full read on him as a starter until next season.

And yeah, that could mean another year of Teddy Bridgewater sitting at the top of the depth chart.

 

I hope everyone feels very encouraged

There wouldn't be any real reason to start Teddy over him. He(Jones) is supposed to be a prospect that is "NFL ready." Put him out on the field so you can know after year one that he isn't that answer and move on.

Edited February 26, 2021 by kungfoodude

[Mr. Scot]

Has anybody brought up the Washington game in this thread yet?

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

There wouldn't be any real reason to start Teddy over him. He(Jones) is supposed to be a prospect that is "NFL ready." Put him out on the field so you can know after year one that he isn't that answer and move on.

I could see it going either way.

I really do think the team wants to go ahead and move on from Bridgewater if they can. I'm just not sure Jones would generate enough confidence for them to do that.

Mind you, if they took him at #8, that might be more likely than if he were taken after a trade down.

[mickeye76]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be fair, Weinke was about 40 years old.

But yeah, there have been a fair number of national championship quarterbacks that haven't exactly been draft darlings.

AJ McCarron was a back to back National Champion.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I could see it going either way.

I really do think the team wants to go ahead and move on from Bridgewater if they can. I'm just not sure Jones would generate enough confidence for them to do that.

Mind you, if they took him at #8, that might be more likely than if he were taken after a trade down.

If Jones doesn't inspire the confidence to sit Teddy, then there is absolutely no reason to even select him. Jones is a prospect that isn't likely to get much better. Classic low ceiling, low floor player.