La Canfora on Tepper's desire for Watson/franchise QB

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Yea, I'm not going to cheer this on.

Don't like an owner (especially one who trusted Marty Hurney) forcing GM's hands.

Definitely.

If you hired me to run your team, and then the first thing you did was start overriding my decisions, I'd likely tell you to kiss my ass and good luck searching for a new GM.

From what I've read about Fitterer, I don't necessarily think he rolls over for something like that either.

Edited February 17, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[The Lobo]

19 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

How much we would have to give up would be dependent on what other teams were also offering. 
 

If the Jets want to be aggressive it would take an offer from us that most people here wouldn’t be comfortable with.

I’m thinking three first, Burns and Chinn.

 

Fair, but the Jets don’t have the star power to offer someone like Cmc. They may want two defensive players, but they probably didn’t think someone like Cmc would be in a package. CMC and picks should outweigh a lot of offers. 

[BrisbanePanther]

Had to sign up just to say this--been reading the Watson thread a while.

PLEASE disregard John McClain--Texans fans view him the exact same way as we see Newton or Person. They have no confidence in him and any sources he may have had with the Texans are probably long gone in the purges. The best Texans fans forum is actually ClutchFans, the Rockets forum (I know because I'm a Rockets fan). 

BTW, I think we're underplaying Caserio's value of CMC. It's not unreasonable that he'd see him as a MUCH MUCH better Edelman, and we know how much NE values Edelman.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, The Lobo said:

Fair, but the Jets don’t have the star power to offer someone like Cmc. They may want two defensive players, but they probably didn’t think someone like Cmc would be in a package. CMC and picks should outweigh a lot of offers. 

Only if they want him though.

One of the things that puts us at a bit of a disadvantage is that there are other teams out there who can offer a ready made starting quarterback in return.

We can't do that. Neither can we offer a high enough pick to guarantee one of the best quarterbacks available in the draft.

The Jets and Dolphins can do both.

[The Lobo]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Only if they want him though.

One of the things that puts us at a bit of a disadvantage is that there are other teams out there who can offer a ready made starting quarterback in return.

We can't do that. Neither can we offer a high enough pick to guarantee one of the best quarterbacks available in the draft.

The Jets and Dolphins can do both.

Yeah, good point. I did read though the Miami is set on moving forward with Tua. As of now could Teddy and Darnold be a wash? By that I mean, we could send Teddy to Houston and that would be just as favorable as NYJ getting Darnold, no?

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Neither is Cal McNair, and that's a big part of the problem.

Any scenario depending on the idea that Cal McNair will suddenly wise up has some risk.

Bingo.

McNair has proven to be entirely capable of unpredictable behaviour, and, he is in possession of F.U. money...

...anyone who completely discounts the possibility that McNair will call Deshaun's bluff and hold him to his contract is a dolt.

[SizzleBuzz]

22 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

True.  None of us really know how far Tepper is willing to go to get a franchise QB.

Doesn't matter if Houston won't trade him.

[kungfoodude]

28 minutes ago, Verge said:

Side note: I do not believe we ever offered Burns, nor do I personally think we would trade him. 

He is easily the most valuable asset on our team, so I would hope they would think twice before peddling him.

[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Let me know if he does any of that and I'll get excited. I want him here. I'm not trying to dash anyone's hopes. Let's make it happen.

He doesn't need to. Yet.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Yeah, good point. I did read though the Miami is set on moving forward with Tua. As of now could Teddy and Darnold be a wash? By that I mean, we could send Teddy to Houston and that would be just as favorable as NYJ getting Darnold, no?

Not a big Darnold fan, but I'd still rate him significantly better than Bridgewater.

He at least has a chance to make a turn around like Ryan Tannehill did. Don't know that he will, but I do feel pretty comfortable saying that Bridgewater won't.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

He is easily the most valuable asset on our team, so I would hope they would think twice before peddling him.

Even if not offering him is a dealbreaker for the Texans?

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Bingo.

McNair has proven to be entirely capable of unpredictable behaviour, and, he is in possession of F.U. money...

...anyone who completely discounts the possibility that McNair will call Deshaun's bluff and hold him to his contract is a dolt.

All the owners have F.U. money, but, at the end of the day, they all fold in these situations. It's only a matter of how long. Keeping a disgruntled QB isn't in their best interest. Anyone that doesn't understand this is naive!

[TheProcess]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Not a big Darnold fan, but I'd still rate him significantly better than Bridgewater.

He at least has a chance to make a turn around like Ryan Tannehill did. Don't know that he will, but I do feel pretty comfortable saying that Bridgewater won't.

Yeah, Darnold has to be rated higher than Teddy just on potential and contract alone. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Even if not offering him is a dealbreaker for the Texans?

Depends on the price. An elite pass rusher on a rookie contract is worth a LOT. I'll wager we could peddle him for much more than a first round draft pick at the moment. So if they want Burns, one of those firsts is off the table, IMO. He's worth more than a first.