Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Verge's top 50 players 2021 Draft 1.0


Verge
 Share

Recommended Posts

You got my positional rankings, now how do I rank them overall? Here you go.

Top 50 players: 
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE
2. Zach Wilson, QB,  BYU
3. Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO
4. Penei Sewell, T, ORE
5. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU
6. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
7. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC 
8. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA
9. Caleb Farley, CB, VT
10. Micah Parsons, OLB/ILB, PST
11. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW 

12. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH
13. Gregory Rousseau, EDGE, MIA 

14. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 
15. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC
16. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
17. Justin Fields, QB, OHST
18. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB, ND
19. Christian Darrisaw, T, VT 

20. Carlos Basham, EDGE, WF
21. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE
22. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL
23. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO
24. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA

25. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
26. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA
27. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 
28. Jay Tufele, DT, USC
29. Shaun Wade, CB, OHST
30. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST
31. Kadarious Toney, WR/RB, FLO
32. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM
33. Trey Smith, G, TEN 

34. Dylan Moses, ILB, ALA
35. Jevon Holland, S, ORE
36. Creed Humphrey, C, OKL

37. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MIC
38. Marquez Stevenson, WR, HOU
39. Trey Hill, C, GEO
40. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR
41. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO
42. Samuel Cosmi, OT, TEX 
43. Jayson Oweh, EDGE, PENN
44. Rondale Moore, WR, MINN
45. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST
46. Aaron Robinson, CB, FST 
47. Kylin Hill, RB, MSST
48. Paris Ford, S, PITT
49. Mac Jones, QB, ALA 
50. Asante Samuel Jr., CB, FST

  • Pie 2
  • The D 1
  • Flames 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a Mississippi State season ticket holder who has seen major talent on defense go high, I completely disagree on Kylin Hill being top 50. He isn't terrible but if he is selected before the third someone needs to be fired. His flaws keep him from being great. He has no breakaway speed. He dances too much and never fights for the extra yard, preferring to go out of bounds. He is a terrible pass blocker. Lastly he was kicked off the team. I wouldn't touch him. He has malcontent and headcase written all over him.

Edited by bobcat91
  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

Don’t really care, him looking like pickles scares me!

You can go crazy thinking like that.  I have seen jones compared to Rosen, Lance compared to J Allen, Baker Mayfield compared to Russell Wilson---but I have seen more comparisons between Wilson and Mahommes than Pickles.  Yet I get it--you get that in your head and it changes the way you think. 

Verge, I would like to hear more about Trey Hill.  You seem very high on him.  I have seen him in round 3-6 on similar boards, but when I watched video, I could see little separation between him, Myers, and Humphries--but you did not include Myers--Myers to me is interesting because he has also played G, and he could play LG for a season, get some experience, and take Paradis' job in 2022. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm glad I'm not the only one laughing at so many mock simulators that have Paris Ford and Trey Hill outside the top 150 guys.

 

I really want Hill, think he is a absolute monster inside. Worst case he is a 10 year RG, best he is all pro center. Dude really has only a few little downsides (not the most athletic guy to play the spot, and sometimes isn't perfect as a second level blocker), but he controls the line in both phases.

 

Also I think Terrance Marshall Jr is better than the last few wr on you top 50. He got to be #3 on a loaded squad so got less looks and then instantly went to a baby faced team that wasn't as good at qb. Still did good/great in both situations for a young college guy.

Edited by chbright
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, Verge said:

You got my positional rankings, now how do I rank them overall? Here you go.

Top 50 players: 
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE
2. Zach Wilson, QB,  BYU
3. Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO
4. Penei Sewell, T, ORE
5. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU
6. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
7. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC 
8. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA
9. Caleb Farley, CB, VT
10. Micah Parsons, OLB/ILB, PST
11. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW 

12. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH
13. Gregory Rousseau, EDGE, MIA 

14. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 
15. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC
16. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
17. Justin Fields, QB, OHST
18. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB, ND
19. Christian Darrisaw, T, VT 

20. Carlos Basham, EDGE, WF
21. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE
22. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL
23. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO
24. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA

25. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
26. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA
27. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 
28. Jay Tufele, DT, USC
29. Shaun Wade, CB, OHST
30. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST
31. Kadarious Toney, WR/RB, FLO
32. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM
33. Trey Smith, G, TEN 

34. Dylan Moses, ILB, ALA
35. Jevon Holland, S, ORE
36. Creed Humphrey, C, OKL

37. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MIC
38. Marquez Stevenson, WR, HOU
39. Trey Hill, C, GEO
40. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR
41. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO
42. Samuel Cosmi, OT, TEX 
43. Jayson Oweh, EDGE, PENN
44. Rondale Moore, WR, MINN
45. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST
46. Aaron Robinson, CB, FST 
47. Kylin Hill, RB, MSST
48. Paris Ford, S, PITT
49. Mac Jones, QB, ALA 
50. Asante Samuel Jr., CB, FST

I'm really curious as to your next 50 (top 100).  There are several guys I like that I feel are in that 50-75 range.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

Don’t really care, him looking like pickles scares me!

The problems with Wilson are his footwork and his level of competition. I question some of his decision making too - but don't question his arm / ball placement / accuracy. 

He's a guy you'd love to sit for a year if you take him - physically he can do it all. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 2/15/2021 at 3:16 AM, Verge said:

You got my positional rankings, now how do I rank them overall? Here you go.

Top 50 players: 
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE
2. Zach Wilson, QB,  BYU
3. Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO
4. Penei Sewell, T, ORE
5. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU
6. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
7. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC 
8. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA
9. Caleb Farley, CB, VT
10. Micah Parsons, OLB/ILB, PST
11. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW 

12. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH
13. Gregory Rousseau, EDGE, MIA 

14. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 
15. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC
16. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
17. Justin Fields, QB, OHST
18. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB, ND
19. Christian Darrisaw, T, VT 

20. Carlos Basham, EDGE, WF
21. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE
22. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL
23. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO
24. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA

25. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
26. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA
27. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 
28. Jay Tufele, DT, USC
29. Shaun Wade, CB, OHST
30. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST
31. Kadarious Toney, WR/RB, FLO
32. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM
33. Trey Smith, G, TEN 

34. Dylan Moses, ILB, ALA
35. Jevon Holland, S, ORE
36. Creed Humphrey, C, OKL

37. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MIC
38. Marquez Stevenson, WR, HOU
39. Trey Hill, C, GEO
40. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR
41. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO
42. Samuel Cosmi, OT, TEX 
43. Jayson Oweh, EDGE, PENN
44. Rondale Moore, WR, MINN
45. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST
46. Aaron Robinson, CB, FST 
47. Kylin Hill, RB, MSST
48. Paris Ford, S, PITT
49. Mac Jones, QB, ALA 
50. Asante Samuel Jr., CB, FST

Not to be THAT guy, but you've just compared Mac Jones to a 'better' Andy Dalton.

Do you really have a 10 year NFL starter, 3 time Pro Bowler with over 30k yards and nearly a 2:1 TD:INT ratio as your 49th best prospect? That just seems nuts. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, OldhamA said:

Not to be THAT guy, but you've just compared Mac Jones to a 'better' Andy Dalton.

Do you really have a 10 year NFL starter, 3 time Pro Bowler with over 30k yards and nearly a 2:1 TD:INT ratio as your 49th best prospect? That just seems nuts. 

I mean as a prospect coming out of TCU...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 2/17/2021 at 8:26 AM, Mother Grabber said:

if we are able to sit tight at 8 and get Lance with no future 1st trade shenanigans, I'll have full chub for the rest of the off season.

Adam Caplan was on whatever radio I was listening to in the car this evening. He said it seemed Lance was a second half of the first round guy from his sources.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Yeah and he succeeded at an even higher level in LA with an even better surrounding cast. Goff is a guy that isn't really able to dramatically elevate players around him but he can make a good situation even better. He is capable of that. Some QB's aren't. I am not sure Dak is able to do that and he is in a similar "class" as Goff, IMO.
    • i think i could handle that for a year. beyond that....i don't know.  back where we lived, when we had a few inches of snow, it might have been a couple feet because we weren't getting out and doing anything. i remember times where power would go out for days on end. we had propane and electric heat, depending on the floor. basement (had a couple bedrooms and a living room and kitchen down there) and main floor had gas logs. main floor gas logs was enough to take care of the upstairs, so we could stay warm and cook on the grill when we needed. we had a well so that was always an issue when the power went out. had to make sure tubs were filled with water for the toilets and we had gallons of water for drinking and cooking available. always had to make sure we were ready. that wasn't always the case. we had a couple moments where we were going through propane quickly and because we were dealing with the worst propane company in the world (amerigas) they wouldn't get out to put gas in our 900 gallon tank. made for some nerve racking moments.  i know y'all were probably a lot more able to handle that kind of thing, but after the little bit (comparatively) that we got here i just have no desire to get trapped again. maybe for a day or two a year get snowed in and i'm good.
    • I think he is just drawing a DC to them line and that's about as far as his thought process went. It makes almost no sense outside of that. Also, it doesn't make sense for Pittsburgh or Seattle at this juncture either.  I think our "veteran" pool is basically gonna be the Dalton/Flacco tier or the "pick your poison" options of young busts(Jones/Z. Wilson) or wild, TO prone gunslingers(Darnold/Winston/etc). We have the option to pursue I genuinely believe(depending on the way the rest of this season goes), we either draft a QB in the top 10 or resign Dalton. Outlier third option on taking one of the wild gunslingers that Dave feels like he can work with.
×
×
  • Create New...