Sewell

[PantherPhann89]

I'm not sure that our staff wants to hang their hat on a rookie QB. If feels like we want a veteran QB. It'll be interesting what we do if we can't or don't sign the veteran QB we want...

[TheBigKat]

he's not getting past Cincy #culture

[LinvilleGorge]

If we don't answer the QB question elsewhere, then any pick other than QB is going to be deeply disappointing.

[Mistuh Jones]

May the QB run spring either Sewell or Parsons. I would soil the front of my pants if either is there. 

[MHS831]

The better approach to thread may have been, "Will Cincinnati trade out of the fifth spot and risk losing Sewell if others want to move up?"  I am not sure they would trade away the best LT (to protect burrow) to come out in some time--especially after watching their first overall draft pick getting carted off the field last year.

Remember, Cincy is the land of Tony Munoz.

Edited February 9, 2021 by MHS831

[SetfreexX]

1 hour ago, WarPanthers89 said:

This would be a no brainer. The real question though (and more realistic one) is what if it is between Lance and Slater? 

You take the QB, it's been made clear that TB isn't it, and the 2022 QB class is limited, we are likely not picking inside the top 10 again next off-season. You take the QB while he's there, we're going to have substantial cap space after this season. 

[Sgt Schultz]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The better approach to thread may have been, "Will Cincinnati trade out of the fifth spot and risk losing Sewell if others want to move up?"  I am not sure they would trade away the best LT (to protect burrow) to come out in some time--especially after watching their first overall draft pick getting carted off the field last year.

Remember, Cincy is the land of Tony Munoz.

I've had that same reaction when people think Cincy will trade out of the #5 spot.  They have their young QB, it appears, they got him killed this past year, and Sewell or Slater will be available at #5 (I still think in that order).  They may not be available five picks later or lower. 

Granted, the Bengals are far from a complete team, but a huge piece of their puzzle is likely going to be sitting their for the taking.

I'm not convinced the Dolphins will be all that interested in trading #3, either, unless the mother lode is put on the table.  They have to feel like they are close, and having the #3 pick is not likely to happen again any time soon unless they are not close. 

Everything does have a price, but I think the price both of those teams want is going to be extremely steep. 

[MHS831]

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we don't answer the QB question elsewhere, then any pick other than QB is going to be deeply disappointing.

I am thinking this may boil down to Watkins, and I am not sure that is even an option or will be one we can afford, moving up in the draft, or gambling on a player like Trubiski or Mishew. 

People here are screaming for Watson, but the cost will make it nearly impossible to build around him.  We will have a flashy, entertaining QB who gets sacked a lot, has no defense, or has no weapons--you cannot have it all.  Familiar territory for us.

Gardner Minshew on a good team would be good.  Trading for him (a player, preferably (they need a DT, TE, and OT) would be ideal, but they have 2 first rounders in 2021.  However, Minshew should not draw top QB attention, even though he quietly had good numbers in Jax.  So a player, maybe someone like Thompson (or tag and trade Moton if he does not want to be here after 1 year), and maybe a future third rounder.

Then you can use your first rounder to trade back for a future first rounder, acquiring the ability (along with Detroit) to move up in the 2022 draft for a QB.

I am not sure there are any real solutions that do not require us trading away draft picks.  And yes, I am pissed to be a fan of this "winning culture" that does not routinely win.

Edited February 9, 2021 by MHS831

[MHS831]

13 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I've had that same reaction when people think Cincy will trade out of the #5 spot.  They have their young QB, it appears, they got him killed this past year, and Sewell or Slater will be available at #5 (I still think in that order).  They may not be available five picks later or lower. 

Granted, the Bengals are far from a complete team, but a huge piece of their puzzle is likely going to be sitting their for the taking.

I'm not convinced the Dolphins will be all that interested in trading #3, either, unless the mother lode is put on the table.  They have to feel like they are close, and having the #3 pick is not likely to happen again any time soon unless they are not close. 

Everything does have a price, but I think the price both of those teams want is going to be extremely steep. 

Dolphins may be too pricey--what a lucky deal that was, to get Houston's pick--and Cincy may not budge.  Dare we trade with Atlanta?  They are unlikely to agree to a deal that would send a top QB to a rival.  So that leaves Philly, and they may be the best trade partner, if you do not think a team like Dallas (rumors) or Denver or SF, or NE---will offer them more.  In fact, there is no indication that Detroit is sold on Goff.

So for us to have a winning culture, we win a meaningless game and miss out on what might be the best QB draft in years.  Stupid, if you ask me.

The best move is to bring in a veteran like Trubiski or trade for Minshew, trade back in the first, and build capital for 2022.  If the QB does the job, great.  If not, you stand a better chance of grabbing your franchise in 2022 than in 2021.

It just seems to me that beating Washington cost us a first round draft pick---in 2022--because I see few scenarios where that pick is not part of a package.  That is what this winning culture in a meaningless game cost us.  Still mad at the chest pounding stupidity.  There was nothing wrong with getting a long look at Grier in that game-trying to win.  Nothing wrong with playing your rookie CBs.  Not us.  We gotta hang that 5-11 banner.

[theinstrumental]

The good news is that Slater's also very highly-regarded, so it looks like we'll have a shot at a franchise LT if we want one. I wanted one of the tackles last year and still think it's a good idea.

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of love for Slater over Sewell. We could have one of them and pick up a qb with one if the picks we didn't trade away. Hell, Teddy might even be better if he gets another second or 2.

I've seen a couple of mocks that have him going before Sewell.  So it's not out of the question to see him fall to 8.  Or we could take Slater at 8 which would not upset me. 

Edited February 9, 2021 by DaveThePanther2008

[Panther'sBigD]

I would rather have Sewell and the rest of our picks than any of the QBs besides Lawrence. 

 

 

[Boundary Guru]

I know slim chance, but if the qbs are gone and he there when we pick, it would be a dream coming true. My personal opinion, qb situation aside, I would take Sewell over everyone not named Trevor.

 

Eta. ^beat me to it.

Edited February 9, 2021 by Boundary Guru

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Boundary Guru said:

I know slim chance, but if the qbs are gone and he there when we pick, it would be a dream coming true. My personal opinion, qb situation aside, I would take Sewell over everyone not named Trevor.

 

Eta. ^beat me to it.

If that were to happen the price for the 8th pick would be insane and a trade back would be more beneficial.