Russell Wilson unhappy?

[ForJimmy]

[ForJimmy]

It’s a little frustrating how QBs want these huge contracts, but they also want a great line protecting them and plenty of weapons. I mean you have to field a defense as well while staying under the cap...

[AceBoogie]

Y’all got to stop thinking players want to come be a part of a rebuild. We aren’t ready for trades like this. 

Edited February 9, 2021 by AceBoogie

[AceBoogie]

12 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s a little frustrating how QBs want these huge contracts, but they also want a great line protecting them and plenty of weapons. I mean you have to field a defense as well while staying under the cap...

Yea but that ain’t the QB’s problem. Hell I want smarter people around me at my job too, but I’m not taking less money for it. 

[SCO96]

8 hours ago, Dex said:

Ahem... Go earn your keep Fitterer.

 

I think Russel Wilson is a great QB and seems to be a genuinely nice person. But, I think some of the blame may lie in his court. He's asked for big time money on his last two deals. According to Spotrac (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/russell-wilson-9885/)

"Russell Wilson signed a 4 year, $140M new money extension with the Seattle Seahawks on April 15, 2019 that included a $65M signing bonus, $107M of total guarantees, and an average annual salary of $35M. At the time of signing this deal was the highest average paid contract, most total guarantees, and biggest signing bonus in NFL history."

In a capped league you can't take up to 20%-30% of the salary cap for one guy (QB), pay the other 51 guys on the active roster, and expect to have depth at every position. It's even harder for Seattle because the team is usually in the playoffs and picking at the end of each round. And, this year they don't even have a 1st round pick. He won't be getting a significant O-line upgrade this year unless the current ones on the roster significantly improve, they find a hidden gem (or gems) in the draft after the 1st round, or find a couple of solid mid-tier Free Agents.

As we Panther fans know, quality offensive lineman don't grow on trees. You are lucky just to find a solid lineman these days (especially LT). Then, after their initial deals you have to pay them. Take a look at the estimated franchise tags for 2021 below.

Wilson's cap figure for 2021 is $32 million. If they paid the current market value for a top O-lineman it's just over $14.5. those two salaries would eat up over 25% of this year's cap space and you'd still have to pay 50 other guys. This year cap is estimated to be $180 million.

https://overthecap.com/franchise-transition-and-rfa-tenders/

2021 Projected Franchise and Transition Tenders

Position	Franchise Tag	Transition Tag
QB	$24,112,000	$21,749,000
DE	$17,752,000	$14,811,000
WR	$16,430,000	$14,269,000
LB	$15,657,000	$13,406,000
CB	$15,266,000	$13,202,000
OL	$14,507,000	$13,156,000
DT	$14,178,000	$11,405,000
S	$11,196,000	$9,550,000
RB	$11,112,000	$8,942,000
TE	$10,156,000	$8,570,000
ST	$4,792,000	$4,382,000

Edited February 9, 2021 by SCO96

[CRA]

I just see this as a QB flexing his power/influence on his team.....not that he wants out.  I think we will see more and more NFL players wielding their power going forward. 

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s a little frustrating how QBs want these huge contracts, but they also want a great line protecting them and plenty of weapons. I mean you have to field a defense as well while staying under the cap...

I don’t get it either. Quality O linemen are becoming harder and harder to find which makes them expensive.

If you are an elite QB, you can either get paid or win. Can’t do both.

 

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Yea but that ain’t the QB’s problem. Hell I want smarter people around me at my job too, but I’m not taking less money for it. 

Tom Brady took less money all those years in NE.

[RockyTopVol]

8 hours ago, DeeJay said:

Bring him to charlotte!

I don't think he will like the line we have in Carolina much better. 

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Yeah, If the greedy bastards weren't so greedy their team might be able to provide some decent protection.  

I have no sympathy for a QB whose salary hit is nearly 1/4 or more of the teams CAP.

The maximum cap on Russell's contract is 17.6% of the salary cap. That is in line with most elite QB's in the league. I think the largest cap hit I can recall was Peyton Manning at 20.5%. 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Yea but that ain’t the QB’s problem. Hell I want smarter people around me at my job too, but I’m not taking less money for it. 

I mean he is “unhappy” so it kind of IS his problem, not to mention the number of hits he has taken...

[Cary Kollins]

I’m pretty sure Mr. Unlimited* has done this same song and dance every offseason with the Seahawks. Not sure what his endgame is but his camp clearly thinks circulating these rumors every offseason is good for him.

 

 

[SCO96]

To this day, no QB has one a Super Bowl with a cap hit over $30 million. Yet, owners keep allowing the agents get record deals for their clients every year. They could have stopped this nonsense year ago. When an agent walked in touting his guy while attempting to reset the QB market the owner or GM should have said "Brady is the best QB in the league. I'm not paying anyone more than the makes." End of discussion.

Now, it's become so bad, that people say you have to win a SB with a QB on his rookie deal, because he essentially eats up all the cap on the 2nd contract. That's backwards. You should have a greater chance to win a title as the QB matures and gets better. In the current market conventional wisdom says when the stud QB hits his prime, let's surround him low priced contractual players and hope for the best. Then again, this is the same league that once paid rookie 1st round draft choices (before they had played a down in the league) more than established veterans simply because of the spot they were taken in the draft. 

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Tom Brady took less money all those years in NE.

He spent 10 years of his career at between 10-15% cap utilization. He could have gotten more but he also wasn't exactly getting paid peanuts. For the bulk of his career he was the highest paid player on the Pats.