Turner/Boston admit that the refs screwed us in SB50

[rippadonn]

3 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Yup.  And although we were getting similarly disadvantaged in SB50, a lot of these early calls actually reminded me of how the NFL jobbed us in the playoffs back in 2013 against the Niners, because the calls aimed at completely taking away our physicality so the Niners could have their way with us.  I think there was a bad personal foul call on Mitchell early, some ticky-tack def holding calls, and then I remember one of the Niners took a cheap shot and one of our guys went to confront them and Boldin instigated the whole thing and they didn't throw a flag until our guy retaliated...  from that point on, we played passive.  That's what happened last night.  As you said, it's not just taking away one team's ability to be physical, it's taking away their ability to compete altogether in a very physical sport.  And coaches can yell all day, "keep playing, we can't control the refs" but when the penalties are 9 to 1 against you and of the nature they were last night, meanwhile Brady's taunting Mathieu and Mathieu's gets flagged, they're getting 2nd and 3rd chances to score off of penalties, and on defense they aren't just holding but completely piggyback riding your receivers before the ball even gets there, it gets pretty demoralizing...  as a player, there's no way you feel you can play with the same intensity, because you know you're going to get called for it and your effort won't matter.  It really is pathetic.

 

49ers coronation playoff game @BofA. The exact SAME thing! The 49ers figured it out and blatantly took advantage.

I said on this here site after that game that the refs flew in on the 49ers jet.

There was also a big budget commercial that aired with the 49ers and Seahawks playing for the division.

Not the Panthers, and wouldn't you know?! The TV was correct.

Storylines. Do we have a good enough one?

Edited February 8, 2021 by rippadonn

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Officials in all sports at major levels receive "areas of emphasis" or "rules clarifications" from their league/conference.  Their official purpose is to clarify gray areas in the rules or spell out how to handle situations that happened on the field/ice recently (and, in the case of a bench clearing brawl, prevent the causal factors from escalating).

That is what they were meant for.  They have been used for all sorts of things.  MLB has used it over the years to do things like redefine the strike zone without changing the rule that defines the strike zone.  If there is grief, the umpires take it, not the league.  The league keeps its hands clean and nobody is any wiser about their motivations.  The players and coaches will figure it out about the second or third different crew they see having changed their tendencies.

Teams scout officials just like they do opponents.  They have data on which officials tend to call which penalties/fouls or be more lax in the enforcement of others.  In baseball, the pitcher knows full well what the plate umpire's tendencies regarding the strike zone are before he goes out to pitch.  That has been going on for years.  What such an "area of emphasis" does is alter those tendencies. 

If I had to guess what we saw yesterday, because of the consistency of the three defensive backfield officials in the strictness of their view of defensive holding (which is not supported by their previous games), it was that the league issued an "area of emphasis."

The league would, if they are ever called on it, say they were simply advising the officials about something they wanted heightened awareness of, and they never expected it to be a major factor in the outcome.  The league official's nose to grow as he trots that out to see if it flies.

Are they ensuring that one team wins the game?  Nope, they could still lose.  But they are giving them an edge.  In this case, an edge that could only be reasonably be expected to go one direction.

Yep. It's what the league has been doing for years now to encourage more offense.

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I said this elsewhere, but it is worth saying again.  Under Goodell, the NFL has moved away from sports and into sports entertainment.

heck, I'd argue sports is more legit today than probably any other time in history. 

back in the day? White Sox type poo? Yeah, they weren't millionaires like today.   You know back in the day all sorts of people were willing to help dictate outcomes.

[Sgt Schultz]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

heck, I'd argue sports is more legit today than probably and other time in history. 

back in the day? White Sox type poo? Yeah, they weren't millionaires like today.   You know back in the day all sorts of people were willing to help dictate outcomes.

I don't know.  When was the NBA rigging game 6's to ensure game 7's, 2002? 

It is a lot harder today for someone outside to buy an outcome.  You are right, you'd have to put a lot of money on the table to get a professional athlete's attention. 

I am not questioning the integrity of the officials, either.  While NFL officials are not full-time, they are well paid and worked hard to get where they are. 

Even those officials in any sport who are notoriously bad and have bad attitudes are not biased about it. But, if the league tells you they want unnecessary roughness penalties or else, what are they going to do?

In the NBA's case, they wanted game 7's and they apparently had at least one referee that was willing to toe the party line.  They did not get called on that until they had another referee facing gambling charges (not on NBA games, to my knowledge), and he was aware of it.

[t96]

16 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Roger Goodell has been the worst commissioner in the history of sports. 

 

16 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Yup.  Absolute piece of poo.  

The emphasis on image rather than it being about the game has resulted in a complete undercutting of any credibility the league ever had.  From the destruction of the Spygate tapes, the handling of the Ray Rice situation, the blatantly bad officiating in big games, and all the other garbage that has shown Goodell has no moral compass and cares only about the bottom line, it just makes it hard to enjoy many games of consequence anymore.

 

Ehhhh, it's really hard to blame Goodell. He is just doing exactly what all these owners want and being the "bad guy" so that fans and the general public blames him for stuff like this rather than the owners. It's the owners who have let the league deteriorate over the last few decades who are to blame, not Goodell. If it wasn't Goodell as commissioner, it'd just be someone else having the exact same effect.

[Basbear]

Billacheat told his OLmen to hold in the SB starting in early 2000s, "They never call it". Think of it, was there a OL holding called in this one?

Ive been at the fishy stage, not full tintfoil hat, but also can not unsee some of those awful calls.  Facts are their are story lines the NFL hope happens and certain teams they prefer in the playoffs(ones in big media/dallas). 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

4 hours ago, xPariahx said:

SIIIKKEEE, Q is a CIA psychological operation to make people telling the truth look crazy and to poo on the constitution and eventually get communist normys to deem people telling the truth as terrorists. The majority of you on this board have proven it to be correct. It takes a lot of talent to see what have seen and turn it into the complete opposite of what you know you have seen. Keep gettin played by the 1 percent who are smarter than you because they give you all of your thoughts and opinions.

Bro what circles are you running in where normies are communists

[Wes21]

On 2/7/2021 at 10:19 PM, Proudiddy said:

Well, it was obvious.  The NFL goes with the best/most interest-drumming storylines.  And the way they influence games is by neutering one team early to where they become more passive and fall behind.  When you let one team play with maximum physicality and tell the other they can't, it makes for a dramatically different game, and one in which the team that isn't favored falls behind and and has little hope of getting back in it.  

It was really sad to see how this game played out tonight, but the NFL had their yes men do what they wanted done early, and that was enough.  The NFL is a crooked, disgusting, absolute poo organization.

If you watch Packers games you see this concept alot.  They just give the Pack a little nudge here and there to get them over the hump, then the Packers run with it from there.