Watched film of all the top QBs: Zach Wilson screams Mitch Trubisky but Trey Lance has some Mahomes vibes

[Pup McBarky]

19 hours ago, top dawg said:

Lance has a higher ceiling than even Lawrence.

That's an astonishing statement, since many people believe Lawrence's ceiling is GOAT. 

[Verge]

22 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

That's an astonishing statement, since many people believe Lawrence's ceiling is GOAT. 

                                     Lance's Ceiling / Lawrence's Ceiling 

                                                                  Lawrence's floor












                     Lance's Floor 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

That's an astonishing statement, since many people believe Lawrence's ceiling is GOAT. 

And I would ask them if they really think that Lawrence is going to surpass TB12's accomplishments. I doubt that Lawrence turns out to be the best QB playing right now (which, for now, is Mahomes). He's got a long way before he's in the conversation of Marino Rodgers, Montana, Manning, Elway, Favre, Bradshaw, etc. 

[Varking]

14 minutes ago, top dawg said:

And I would ask them if they really think that Lawrence is going to surpass TB12's accomplishments. I doubt that Lawrence turns out to be the best QB playing right now (which, for now, is Mahomes). He's got a long way before he's in the conversation of Marino Rodgers, Montana, Manning, Elway, Favre, Bradshaw, etc. 

It’s hard to imagine any one QB going to ten Super Bowls. 

[top dawg]

40 minutes ago, Varking said:

It’s hard to imagine any one QB going to ten Super Bowls. 

I saw every one of them(the 9, and will see this one if I'm here), and it's still hard to believe, much less imagine. It's incredible! Mahomes may have a shot, just looking at his early career, because he began in an era where the QB and receivers are more protected, but, even still, he's going to have to dodge the injuries and just...last. That's why I chuckle at people who don't want to give Brady his due (which there are plenty). He may not be the best I've ever seen (which IMO is Marino), but he's the GOAT!

Edited February 4, 2021 by top dawg

[Panthera onca]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I saw every one of them, and it's still hard to believe, much less imagine. It's incredible! Mahomes may have a shot, just looking at his early career, because he began in an era where the QB and receivers are more protected, but, even still, he's going to have to dodge the injuries and just...last. That's why I chuckle at people who don't want to give Brady his due (which there are plenty). He may not be the best I've ever seen (which IMO is Marino), but he's the GOAT!

Brady is the GOAT. I also wouldn't be surprised if it eventually comes out that he is taking a PED like Human Growth Hormone to help with his longevity and relatively injury free career. I think the TB12 training method is just cover for some shady poo. Just my opinion, no hard evidence to point to yet.

[top dawg]

4 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

Brady is the GOAT. I also wouldn't be surprised if it eventually comes out that he is taking a PED like Human Growth Hormone to help with his longevity and relatively injury free career. I think the TB12 training method is just cover for some shady poo. Just my opinion, no hard evidence to point to yet.

Well, he did get hurt that one season (which makes what he's accomplished even more amazing from some perspective). 

[saX man]

I'm still all about that Mark Brunell guy

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, saX man said:

I'm still all about that Mark Brunell guy

I'll take Brunell in his prime over Teddy any day!

[saX man]

9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I'll take Brunell in his prime over Teddy any day!

Elvis Grbac

Brian Griese

Hell, maybe even Tony Banks, Jon Kitna, & Tommy Maddox

Aaron Brooks?

Quincy Carter?

or the legend that is Gus Frerotte

ALL OF THEM>>>>>Bridgerton

[Mr. Scot]

Brunell is actually the Lions QB coach now.

[Pup McBarky]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

And I would ask them if they really think that Lawrence is going to surpass TB12's accomplishments. I doubt that Lawrence turns out to be the best QB playing right now (which, for now, is Mahomes). He's got a long way before he's in the conversation of Marino Rodgers, Montana, Manning, Elway, Favre, Bradshaw, etc. 

Of course he does. As Verge so visually put it, Lawrence and Lance have very high ceilings. Either could wind up a top 5 all-time QB. But Lance could be a total bust. And while it's certainly possible that Lawrence could bust, the odds are very high that he doesn't. The same can't be said for Lance right now.

[top dawg]

37 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

Of course he does. As Verge so visually put it, Lawrence and Lance have very high ceilings. Either could wind up a top 5 all-time QB. But Lance could be a total bust. And while it's certainly possible that Lawrence could bust, the odds are very high that he doesn't. The same can't be said for Lance right now.

You do realize that the only reason some people are saying that Lance is a boom-or-bust type of player is based his level of competition. Most scouts that I've seen (like Bucky Brooks for example) are saying this. Lance has elite traits that project well to the NFL. With good teaching, learning and experience, I just don't see him being a bust. 

[Pup McBarky]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You do realize that the only reason some people are saying that Lance is a boom-or-bust type of player is based his level of competition. Most scouts that I've seen (like Bucky Brooks for example) are saying this. Lance has elite traits that project well to the NFL. With good teaching, learning and experience, I just don't see him being a bust. 

Of course that's one reason they're saying that. And personally, I don't think he'll be a bust either. But ask the odds makers in Vegas (I'm sure they have odds on this...they have odds on everything) and you'll see Lawrence has very low odds of bust while Lance is closer to 50/50. But hey, not just Lance...all the other prospects are probably close to 50/50. It's a gamble. But Lawrence is the safest bet since Luck. Like Verge demonstrated...Lawrence has a very high floor. All the others have much lower floors...like out of the NFL floors. Nobody believes Lawrence won't be in the NFL in 5 years.