Per source, Carolina is one of Deshaun Watson’s preferred destinations if traded.

[Pup McBarky]

5 hours ago, philp said:

Why would he want to compete with Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, and Mayfield in the playoffs every year? It might be smart for him to want to hop over to the NFC.

Great football players want to compete against the best. If he wants out of the AFC because he doesn't want to compete against the best, we don't want him. 

[onmyown]

12 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Again, if Watson didn't want to be traded the no-trade clause would have meaningful inherent value...

...in that he's absolutely pining to get out -- the no-trade clause is virtually worthless. 

No trade clause has to be mutual, hence the contract. It’s not worthless because the Texas do not have to trade him due to the clause he has. Watson alone cannot break a trade clause agreement.

Again, the benefit for Watson is getting on with his career and not being stuck and the benefit for the Texans is being able to pick the highest bidder out of a reasonable amount of teams.

Watson can say oh yea I want to go to Miami and the only Miami and that’s final. Then Miami offers a way below market deal...the Texans do not HAVE to say yes, because of the clause.

The clause forces both parties to work together for the best of each side. Watson gets the main benefit of not being able to be traded just anywhere sure, but he does not have all the day.

Edited January 29, 2021 by onmyown

[Moo Daeng]

12 hours ago, philp said:

Why would he want to compete with Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, and Mayfield in the playoffs every year? It might be smart for him to want to hop over to the NFC.

He's a competitor not a wuss

[philp]

6 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

Great football players want to compete against the best. If he wants out of the AFC because he doesn't want to compete against the best, we don't want him. 

Well I’m sure he’s a competitor, but he also has to have a little common sense. I mean, he’s trying to leave his team for God’s sake. 

Edited January 29, 2021 by philp

[SizzleBuzz]

31 minutes ago, onmyown said:

No trade clause has to be mutual, hence the contract. It’s not worthless because the Texas do not have to trade him due to the clause he has. Watson alone cannot break a trade clause agreement.

Again, the benefit for Watson is getting on with his career and not being stuck and the benefit for the Texans is being able to pick the highest bidder out of a reasonable amount of teams.

Watson can say oh yea I want to go to Miami and the only Miami and that’s final. Then Miami offers a way below market deal...the Texans do not HAVE to say yes, because of the clause.

The clause forces both parties to work together for the best of each side. Watson gets the main benefit of not being able to be traded just anywhere sure, but he does not have all the day.

The sum of all that is quite funny...

As for the highlighted text, Watson's no-trade clause specifically restricts the Texans' ability to "pick the highest bidder"...

...but, at this point it appears Deshaun wants out at all costs so he will likely accept a trade to the highest bidder even if they are a less than palatable franchise vs. invoking the NTC which he may have done in more normal times.

 

 

 

[onmyown]

14 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

The sum of all that is quite funny...

As for the highlighted text, Watson's no-trade clause specifically restricts the Texans' ability to "pick the highest bidder"...

...but, at this point it appears Deshaun wants out at all costs so he will likely accept a trade to the highest bidder even if they are a less than palatable franchise vs. invoking the NTC which he may have done in more normal times.

 

 

 

The clause restricts him from being traded period. But that is happening because of mutual agreement, and that is the only way it could happen. Watson can say no to a trade because it’s not where he wants to play because of the clause just as the Texans can also say no to a trade because they’re not given what they want.

Point is, it’s not as simple as Watson choosing a single team where he wants to play and the Texans MUST comply as people seem to think on this forum. That isn’t going to happen. You don’t draft, invest and develop a player and valuable asset only to just give him away to wherever he says so. Even the Texans aren’t that stupid.

And the end of the day Watson will go to a team he is ok playing for and the Texans are ok with what they’re getting in return. And for that to happen Watson will have to give multiple options. And the Texans will determine what capital each will give. That is what’s happening.

Edited January 29, 2021 by onmyown

[SizzleBuzz]

38 minutes ago, onmyown said:

The clause restricts him from being traded period. But that is happening because of mutual agreement, and that is the only way it could happen. Watson can say no to a trade because it’s not where he wants to play because of the clause just as the Texans can also say no to a trade because they’re not given what they want.

Point is, it’s not as simple as Watson choosing a single team where he wants to play and the Texans MUST comply as people seem to think on this forum. That isn’t going to happen. You don’t draft, invest and develop a player and valuable asset only to just give him away to wherever he says so. Even the Texans aren’t that stupid.

And the end of the day Watson will go to a team he is ok playing for and the Texans are ok with what they’re getting in return. And for that to happen Watson will have to give multiple options. And the Texans will determine what capital each will give. That is what’s happening.

That's funny too

There is nothing "mutual" about this...Deshaun is acting like a whiny bitch making a demand, will be interesting to see if it is met.

Edited January 29, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[Captain Morgan]

Field Yates

 

@FieldYates

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New Texans head coach David Culley on Deshaun Watson: "He is a Houston Texan. I want him to be a Houston Texan. The reason I'm in this position today is because I know he's going to be a Houston Texan."    

 

 

 

Kyle Bailey

 

@KyleBaileyClub

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Narrator: He will not.

[kungfoodude]

13 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Again, if Watson didn't want to be traded the no-trade clause would have meaningful inherent value...

...in that he's absolutely pining to get out -- the no-trade clause is virtually worthless. 

It isn't worthless because they can't peddle him to the highest bidder. It has to be to a team he is willing to be traded to. Remember, he has veto power.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

That's funny too

There is nothing "mutual" about this...Deshaun is acting like a whiny bitch making a demand, will be interesting to see if it is met.

If they don't meet his demands, it is the Texans who stand to lose a lot more than Deshaun Watson. Remember, they just gave him a $30 mil signing bonus.

If they play hardball, all they will achieve is a spot in the dumpster of the NFL for the remainder of time.

[Waldo]

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If they don't meet his demands, it is the Texans who stand to lose a lot more than Deshaun Watson. Remember, they just gave him a $30 mil signing bonus.

If they play hardball, all they will achieve is a spot in the dumpster of the NFL for the remainder of time.

And given the fact they have 'expertly' managed their draft picks, their choices to acquire a playable QB while Watson sits is bleak. For a new GM and HC, what fun times. 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

And given the fact they have 'expertly' managed their draft picks, their choices to acquire a playable QB while Watson sits is bleak. For a new GM and HC, what fun times. 

Yep. And I believe you will see an exodus of talent from the franchise the more contentious this gets with Watson. By all accounts, he is well liked there and teammates had suggested he get out. 

I suspect they will all be jumping ship in short order, as well. 

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

That's funny too

There is nothing "mutual" about this...Deshaun is acting like a whiny bitch making a demand, will be interesting to see if it is met.

Well yea the trade itself is not mutual. I’m sure the Texans want to keep him but since the trade of demanded by Watson doubt they want him there disgruntled. Doesn’t mean they won’t have some say in getting as much as they can for him.

There was a good article I read yesterday that said the specific reasons for Watson wanting the trade have not been stated and any team getting him would have to most likely understand and accept that something was going on and they’ll never know the full scope of it and this was the baggage they’d have to accept and hope they don’t piss him off in some way, which is true.

If I was a FO looking at Watson I’d want to know as well. Clearly he is this upset about something. Coach hires, trading his friend/best weapon. But NFL is a business and it’s rare you see a franchise QB leave like this. Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll ever know the full details.

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

If they don't meet his demands, it is the Texans who stand to lose a lot more than Deshaun Watson. Remember, they just gave him a $30 mil signing bonus.

If they play hardball, all they will achieve is a spot in the dumpster of the NFL for the remainder of time.

Watson also loses his chance to continue his career. And is value will go down. Playing time non existent. Worst case scenario he could basically just fade out instead of continue to build on a HOF type career.

In my mind, both have a lot to lose by hard balling each other. No doubt there will be a little of that...but like I said before, it’s going to have to be a good deal and compromise for both of them. Which makes sense because there is no benefit for him staying for either party.