Todd McShay is CONVINCED we will move on from Teddy

[Carolina Cajun]

I was on the teddy bandwagon early, but the day he threw joe brady under the bus, I knew he was done here.  As an average qb, you cant do that and think you'll be fine even if you are right.

[Basbear]

13 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

We owe him no matter what and given all the BS, he could improve. Its not like this team is ready for a playoff run, get rid of him after the cap isnt effected. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

“Nobody — I don’t care if you’re Warren Buffett or Jimmy Buffett — nobody knows if a stock will go up, down, sideways, or in fuging circles,”

[panthertime]

2 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:

Will we be able to trade him this year is the question?

Unfortunately, probably not. Who would want him?

[Mr Mojo Risin]

What's more troubling is they legit thought TB was more than what he was when they signed him. Doesn't give me high hopes they will be able to find a competent/franchise worthy QB during the Rhule era, but we'll see what happens!

[*FreeFua*]

27 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

What's more troubling is they legit thought TB was more than what he was when they signed him. Doesn't give me high hopes they will be able to find a competent/franchise worthy QB during the Rhule era, but we'll see what happens!

They?

[RoaringRiot]

We love to blame Hurney for every bad move the Panthers make but for some reason we attach Teddy to Rhule and for the life of me I cant understand why. It was such a desperate move and only one person in a decision making role was desperate. 

[Jon Snow]

30 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

What's more troubling is they legit thought TB was more than what he was when they signed him. Doesn't give me high hopes they will be able to find a competent/franchise worthy QB during the Rhule era, but we'll see what happens!

I would surmise that given how wrong that assessment turn out to be may have had something to do with the choice to hire Fitterer. 

[RoaringRiot]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

I would surmise that given how wrong that assessment turn out to be may have had something to do with the choice to hire Fitterer. 

[RoaringRiot]

Listen to what Tepper says in that interview - the dude cant hide anything. 

He said (paraphrasing) that he wasn't as close to some of the decisions early on as he was learning to be an owner and that's on him and now he's more vested in those decisions. 

Translation: he let Marty fool him with TB but fug that poo from now on

 

[joemac]

5 hours ago, Basbear said:

Rich Gannon got better at a late stage, Kurt Warner did too. Odds are not in Teddys favor, AT ALL. Mainly Im hoping he gets better, cause Id dont see a smart move to move on this year. The team needed TDs, CMC had 6 TDs in three games. I feel lots of the teddy hate, needs to be on CMC. It was a short weird convid offseason and Joe Brady never install a offense before. Teddy was new to carolina too, many reasons for his lack of play. 

Rich Gannon had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice to throw to. Kurt Warner had Marshall Faulk, Torrey Holt and Issac Bruce.

Edited January 29, 2021 by joemac

[Madwolf]

Teddy has never been "the guy" here, even if some of us hoped he could be. The writing on the wall has always been that he was odds on a bridge to the next Franchise QB, likely from the draft. Even Louisville fans will say this, even if most of us really thought he had a chance to do well here. It was fairly obvious he was brought into mentor the next guy, and be a leader on the team in the meantime while taking the hits behind the LOS.

18 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

I was on the teddy bandwagon early, but the day he threw joe brady under the bus, I knew he was done here.  As an average qb, you cant do that and think you'll be fine even if you are right.

And someone needs to explain to me what he was supposed to say. The play call came in late, was he supposed to cover for Joe Brady? Is being honest, without malice, really "throwing him under the bus?"

Look I love Joe Brady, I was very excited for him to be here, and still am, but the guy isn't a messiah. It was his first year as a play caller at the NFL level, and he wasn't even the full OC at LSU. The NFL is a faster pace, and Brady struggled at times with play calling and pace. Teddy didn't have a problem with pacing under New Orleans or Minnesota, but he seemed to have a problem with it in Carolina. Some of that is on Brady, but man it's not exactly all on him either. Covid and everything else was horrible for new coaching staffs and players.

Teddy wasn't tossing Brady under the bus. He didn't toss coaches under the bus for his first 27 years on planet Earth, and he was always a good team mate. That didn't suddenly change when he put on Carolina blue.

If we're going to be mad at Teddy, or anyone, let's make sure we're mad at them for the right reasons, instead of inventing reasons because we're upset with them. This is Cam with the towel on his head all over again.

[Carolina Cajun]

2 hours ago, Madwolf said:

Teddy has never been "the guy" here, even if some of us hoped he could be. The writing on the wall has always been that he was odds on a bridge to the next Franchise QB, likely from the draft. Even Louisville fans will say this, even if most of us really thought he had a chance to do well here. It was fairly obvious he was brought into mentor the next guy, and be a leader on the team in the meantime while taking the hits behind the LOS.

And someone needs to explain to me what he was supposed to say. The play call came in late, was he supposed to cover for Joe Brady? Is being honest, without malice, really "throwing him under the bus?"

Look I love Joe Brady, I was very excited for him to be here, and still am, but the guy isn't a messiah. It was his first year as a play caller at the NFL level, and he wasn't even the full OC at LSU. The NFL is a faster pace, and Brady struggled at times with play calling and pace. Teddy didn't have a problem with pacing under New Orleans or Minnesota, but he seemed to have a problem with it in Carolina. Some of that is on Brady, but man it's not exactly all on him either. Covid and everything else was horrible for new coaching staffs and players.

Teddy wasn't tossing Brady under the bus. He didn't toss coaches under the bus for his first 27 years on planet Earth, and he was always a good team mate. That didn't suddenly change when he put on Carolina blue.

If we're going to be mad at Teddy, or anyone, let's make sure we're mad at them for the right reasons, instead of inventing reasons because we're upset with them. This is Cam with the towel on his head all over again.

I'm not saying Brady wasn't at fault and I don't think that he's some sort of messiah, he screwed up a ton this year, but the players and coaches giving interviews use "coachspeak" for a reason.  Easy answer was "there were some issues towards the end of the game, but we all gotta be better in those situations so in the future we walk away with a win".  Simple, that's the coach speak answer, saying your coach wasn't getting the calls in on time is going out of your way to make that publicly known where as usually that is an internal matter.  just to reiterate, Its not that he's not right, he most likely is, but answers like that rub coaches the wrong way.

[PandaMan]

11 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

I'm not saying Brady wasn't at fault and I don't think that he's some sort of messiah, he screwed up a ton this year, but the players and coaches giving interviews use "coachspeak" for a reason.  Easy answer was "there were some issues towards the end of the game, but we all gotta be better in those situations so in the future we walk away with a win".  Simple, that's the coach speak answer, saying your coach wasn't getting the calls in on time is going out of your way to make that publicly known where as usually that is an internal matter.  just to reiterate, Its not that he's not right, he most likely is, but answers like that rub coaches the wrong way.

Plus, like... DJ was wide open in the end zone not even 10 yards away and he missed him completely.  I understand that since the call was late he might not have been sure of the route DJ was running without hesitating, but he was WIDE open.  A starting QB would’ve taken accountability for that and admitted that he fuged up.  “I have to make a better throw in that situation”