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Deshaun WATSON Officially Requests Trade from Texans

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

Some of these people around here act like CMC is untouchable. If we have to send him to Houston to land Watson so be it. CMC plays RB a position that is very easy to fill. Watson plays QB at a top 5 level something that some franchises have never had. Huge difference.

How about McCaffrey plus Burns?

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

Some of these people around here act like CMC is untouchable. If we have to send him to Houston to land Watson so be it. CMC plays RB a position that is very easy to fill. Watson plays QB at a top 5 level something that some franchises have never had. Huge difference.

If CMC is a part of the deal best bet it’s not happening. Y’all can forget us trading him, I can’t believe anyone would even think this.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

How about McCaffrey plus Burns?

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I really don't want to lose Burns. If we are sending CMC and Burns they are only getting 1 pick to go with them.

I read the above posts, just did not want to include a burns, chinn, or any young defensive players. CMC could be traded yesterday, he is a RB and while I do like him, he is expendable.

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1 minute ago, BurnNChinn said:

If CMC is a part of the deal best bet it’s not happening. Y’all can forget us trading him, I can’t believe anyone would even think this.

We can get a new RB in round 4 or 5 and do RB by committee. Our running game did ot suffer much with Davis instead of CMC. CMC is not a guy that is going to win tons of games for you. He is a nice piece to have if you are ready to compete for a super bowl.

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4 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Some of these people around here act like CMC is untouchable. If we have to send him to Houston to land Watson so be it. CMC plays RB a position that is very easy to fill. Watson plays QB at a top 5 level something that some franchises have never had. Huge difference.

Cmc is probably the fan fave on the roster, that's gonna factor into a lot of people's opinion on whether he can be included in the deal, despite his playing a devalued position. He's a special RB but you trade that for a special QB any day. I'd prefer to keep him, DJ, and Burns and trade the unknowns, like first rounders which could potentially bust, but it's understandable if Houston wants him since he's our beat dude. 

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

Some of these people around here act like CMC is untouchable. If we have to send him to Houston to land Watson so be it. CMC plays RB a position that is very easy to fill. Watson plays QB at a top 5 level something that some franchises have never had. Huge difference.

I'm not opposed to the idea in theory about having a player like McCaffrey in a trade for Watson. The reason it's not practical is we would lose cap space by doing it. We're not flush with cap space as is; you take away the bit we have, add Watson's hit (despite being reasonable in 2021) and then still have to replace all of McCaffrey's production with somebody, likely a free agent, if not a 1st or 2nd round draft pick (whoops those went to Houston in the trade). Just not at all practical. A player like DJ Moore unfortunately makes a lot more sense since we'd actually save $2 million trading him. I'm not saying I'd want to do that but it's at least feasible to have a 53 man roster and do that. Impossible to have one, at least competitive one, by trading CMC and his dead cap.

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

We can get a new RB in round 4 or 5 and do RB by committee. Our running game did ot suffer much with Davis instead of CMC. CMC is not a guy that is going to win tons of games for you. He is a nice piece to have if you are ready to compete for a super bowl.

This. We literally replaced about 80% of his production with a cheap free agent. Not a knock on CMC, he's absolutely the best RB in football. The position itself is just replaceable. 

The only players we should be hesitant to part with are DJ, bc he's super young and cheap atm and Deshaun would need someone to throw to, and Burns, bc he's also super young and cheap atm somebody has to play defense and he's special at a premium position. Everyone else should be on the table. 

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3 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

I'm not opposed to the idea in theory about having a player like McCaffrey in a trade for Watson. The reason it's not practical is we would lose cap space by doing it. We're not flush with cap space as is; you take away the bit we have, add Watson's hit (despite being reasonable in 2021) and then still have to replace all of McCaffrey's production with somebody, likely a free agent, if not a 1st or 2nd round draft pick (whoops those went to Houston in the trade). Just not at all practical. A player like DJ Moore unfortunately makes a lot more sense since we'd actually save $2 million trading him. I'm not saying I'd want to do that but it's at least feasible to have a 53 man roster and do that. Impossible to have one, at least competitive one, by trading CMC and his dead cap.

Throwing salary cap out the window, you dont trade a #1 receiver over a RB either. If they will take CMC instead of Moore you do it in a heartbeat. Nobody will miss CMC if we have Watson at QB, he will be the new fan favorite.

I do see your point about the numbers though, i just dont know much about them. If it is all feasible you trade the RB over the WR every time.

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5 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

I'm not opposed to the idea in theory about having a player like McCaffrey in a trade for Watson. The reason it's not practical is we would lose cap space by doing it. We're not flush with cap space as is; you take away the bit we have, add Watson's hit (despite being reasonable in 2021) and then still have to replace all of McCaffrey's production with somebody, likely a free agent, if not a 1st or 2nd round draft pick (whoops those went to Houston in the trade). Just not at all practical. A player like DJ Moore unfortunately makes a lot more sense since we'd actually save $2 million trading him. I'm not saying I'd want to do that but it's at least feasible to have a 53 man roster and do that. Impossible to have one, at least competitive one, by trading CMC and his dead cap.

The salary cap hit in trading CMC is a real issue and oddly enough this situation is more proof why you don't pay RBs. 

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2 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

The salary cap hit in trading CMC is a real issue and oddly enough this situation is more proof why you don't pay RBs. 

Especially one who should be on his 5th year option.

We should have waited to sign him, he was hurt most of last season and the price may have been a little cheaper, if not he could have played on his 5th year option.

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What are you offering to beat out the Dolphins or Jets if they want him.

 

Dolphins have 3, 18, Tua, and can offer future 1st

Jets have 2, Seattle's  1sts for 2021 AND 2022, and can off their 1st for 2022, and Darnold 

 

 

Now what are you beating that with?

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