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4 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

no. Dan Morgan and Luke were who I was referring to as our investments. also, we are talking about the draft at number 8. has nothing to do with signing big contracts. 

Beason was a 1st rounder too who also got signed to a huge 2nd contract. Yes, when talking overall investments those 2nd contracts absolutely matter. You're not drafting 1st rounders with the intent of letting them walk after 4-5 years. You're drafting for a decade.

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5 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

i think he had to go defense his first draft because the defense was just so damn bad. its not a STUD o-line class, but its viewed to be deep. especially at G. we could easily end up going all offense this draft if the chips fall. 

Rhule wanted to gut the roster to rebuild it, but he knew if he gutted the already bad defense we'd go 0-16. So he poured defensive picks into the defense and he got the couple of wins everyone was expecting.

 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Beason was a 1st rounder too who also got signed to a huge 2nd contract. Yes, when talking overall investments those 2nd contracts absolutely matter. You're not drafting 1st rounders with the intent of letting them walk after 4-5 years. You're drafting for a decade.

but the discussion is based on the draft. nobody is drafting saying okay in 5 years he will want X contract so we have to structure our draft pick based on X salary we will have to pay in 5 years. it sounds cute but it doesn't happen. 

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12 minutes ago, pantherj said:

The Saints and Bucs are the class of the NFCS, and we're not going to out compete them by collect top LBs.

If Rule isn't thinking "QB, weapons, o-line" then we're in deep trouble. If he starts spending picks on the defense yet again then we're going to get yeeted. If our identity is our defense then we know we're ever winning a SB. Not happening.

That’s what I have been saying! We were in 8 games that we lost. We settled for FGs way too much. If we can get the ball in the end zone just one more time per game, we win close to 6 more games IMO. We have a problem scoring TDs. We have to fix that or we are toast. You are not holding our opponents to 17 every week. Not gonna happen in this NFL.

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6 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

but the discussion is based on the draft. nobody is drafting saying okay in 5 years he will want X contract so we have to structure our draft pick based on X salary we will have to pay in 5 years. it sounds cute but it doesn't happen. 

This is what I was talking about. Most fans can't grasp the concept of opportunity costs. Nothing happens in a vacuum. It isn't just about the draft. It's about the big picture. Don't feel bad though, Marty Hurney was a long-term NFL GM and he couldn't grasp it either.

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1 minute ago, mbarbour21 said:

That’s what I have been saying! We were in 8 games that we lost. We settled for FGs way too much. If we can get the ball in the end zone just one more time per game, we win close to 6 more games IMO. We have a problem scoring TDs. We have to fix that or we are toast. You are not holding our opponents to 17 every week. Not gonna happen in this NFL.

We can beat up on bad teams with good defense, but who cares? Beating bad teams just helps those bad teams draft ahead of us. It helps them! Our team is TRASH! Draft the o-line, QB, and weapons now. Yes more weapons. More. Our TEs are poop.

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